No USB output from Behringer UMC1820 interface on Mac mini M4 with Sequoia 15.3.1

Inputs work fine on Garageband, but no USB outputs from that DAW or from any source such as YT videos.

The 1820 works fine with my PC.

There is output from the headphone jack.

Apple tech support used screenshare to confirm everything set up correctly.

Sweetwater support confirmed same using screenshare app.

I've tried all 5 input jacks on the mini.

I've tried 3 different USB C-to-B cables including a new UGreen 3' USB B to USB C cable.

My suspicion is that either Apple or Behringer has some software upgrading to do.

However, other possibilities include

One-off hardware issue, either Apple or Behringer

Cable issue.

Operator error: I am new to Mac. This is the only Mac I've ever owned. Still getting used to it.

Has anyone used their M4 mini successfully with this Berry interface or with any other Behringer UMCxxx interface?

Success with other budget multi-IO interfaces such as MOTU, Focusrite or Presonus?

All comments and suggestions are appreciated.


[Re-Titled by Moderator]


Mac mini, macOS 15.3

Posted on Mar 10, 2025 10:24 AM

Reply

Similar questions

10 replies

Mar 12, 2025 07:08 AM in response to secretpal

I'm glad it's working now!


While doing some more testing & research overnight I found this video, which helped me understand the difference between the "2 different ways to get it working" that I mentioned earlier; and how each is used in practice. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjxRps102QU


The ProFX has 2 USB out channels + 4 USB in channels (1-2 and 3-4). The default setup in both the ProFX and Mac is Ch. 1-2.


On the ProFX,

  • At the top of Fader strip 11/12 the USB 3-4 button routes incoming USB audio to either USB 1-2 or USB 3-4 in the mixer.
  • Mixer USB 1-2 isn't routed to Fader strip 11/12. Instead it is routed to the "TO Phones/Control Rm" button and the Blend knob. It has its uses, as the video explains.
  • Mixer USB 3-4 goes to Fader strip 11/12 as one would expect. But to use it that way you also have to change the Mac's Audio MIDI Setup to use Channels 3-4. And you have to go into Configure Speakers to do that, which is not obvious or even intuitive.


Further, one of the many confusing things in Audio MIDI Setup is that for an individual device there are MUTE checkboxes on the right, but for a MultiOutput device there are USE buttons on the left. They do the same thing. I wish there was better documentation for Audio MIDI Setup.


Mar 11, 2025 06:22 AM in response to secretpal

In a basic, default Mac configuration, all audio from internal sources (iTunes/Music, TV, browsers, etc.) is considered to be "system audio" and it is only output to the "Built-In Output" (the built-in speakers & the headphone jack).


In Audio MIDI Setup, the only default output I have ever seen is "Built-In Output." I wonder if the presence of "Mac mini speakers" is due to you also having speakers in your video monitor.


I use a Mackie ProFX mixer. Here is my Multi-Output setup. Yours should look similar. Note that you can check or uncheck the circled items in the Multi-Output, so for example if I wanted the audio out to go only to the ProFX I would uncheck "Built-In Output" under "Use Audio Device."


Also check your 1820 and your DAW for any settings that may be needed. I remember when I first tried this I was frustrated not getting audio "into" my mixer ... but it turned out that I didn't have the controls on the mixer set properly.



Regarding the buzz, it may be a ground loop. But I wouldn't have expected to see that because the USB cable contains a ground connection.

Mar 10, 2025 04:11 PM in response to secretpal

secretpal wrote:
Inputs work fine on Garageband, but no USB outputs from that DAW or from any source such as YT videos.

Are you saying that input from the UMC1820 to your Mac works on your Mac, but output from your Mac isn't going to the UMC1820?


What do you mean by "any source such as YT videos?" Are you saying that audio from YouTube videos played on your Mac aren't playing out to the UMC1820?


There is output from the headphone jack.

What headphone jack ... the one on the mini or the one on the UMC1820?


Mar 11, 2025 02:51 PM in response to secretpal

Mine is also a ProFX12v3. I have never completely understood the USB input on this mixer. But I found 2 different ways to get it working. Here is the "official" way, at least it's what Mackie's instructions are ... and it works.


On the ProFX12v3:

At the top of the Channel 11-12 strip, press the USB3-4 button ON.

At the bottom of the Channel 11-12 strip, press the L-R button

Do not depress the Mute, 1-2 or PFL Solo buttons


In Audio MIDI Settings

Set the ProFX for "Use this device for sound output." Then click the Configure Speakers button, select "Stereo," set Left speaker to Analog 3 and Right speaker to Analog 4. Click Apply.


At this point, the Fader & dials on the Mackie's Channel 11-12 strip should all work and USB audio should be coming through the mixer.


See p. 40 of the ProFX12v4 manual for the written instructions.


I hope this helps.

Mar 10, 2025 05:53 PM in response to MartinR

Thanks, Martin.


Yes, I can create a Garageband track using a midi controller without issue. But attempting to play that track results in output only to the mini headphone jack but not through the USB jack to the UMC1820. No output from the UMC1820's analog line outs or from the interface's headphone jack.


To insure that it isn't a DAW issue, I've played YouTube videos: no USB audio to the interface from those videos either.


In looking through old conversations on reddit, Behringer, Apple, etc., I notice that there were interface compatibility problems with earlier versions of Apple silicon - the M1 especially, but that these issues were resolved over time, apparently with software fixes by Apple and/or Behringer. If this is the issue I'm experiencing, then perhaps it will disappear with a future update.


One of the difficulties in troubleshooting this problem is the lack of information about current mini M4 users, or perhaps more to the point, Sequoia users, and their experiences with Behringer UMCxxx interfaces. I've asked several sellers and support techs and have not received a response about any user using this combo either successfully or unsuccessfully. I'm guessing that M4 mini sales have boomed and that there are thousands of Berry UMCxxx interfaces out there, but I could be wrong, especially if the issue is related not to all the UMCxxx interfaces, but only to the 1820.


While working on this issue, I'd note that the audio quality of the headphone jack routed to my Mackie mixer and beyond is quite good.

Mar 10, 2025 06:26 PM in response to MartinR

Hi Martin,

Thanks for this suggestion. I saw your 2nd response 1st and responded to it. Only then did I see this suggestion.

I created the multi-output device. The options listed were 1) the 1820, 2) "Mac mini speakers", and 3) my video monitor's speakers.

I wondered if the "Mac mini speakers" referred to the headphone output jack or the internal speakers (which I had previously set up for system sounds only).

Of course, I chose the 1820 and the mini speakers to combine.

Soon I discovered that it definitely was the internal speakers that were offered as a choice, and not the DAC feeding the headphone jack.

I chose first the 1820 and then the internal speakers. In each case, sound came from the mini's internal speakers and not from the 1820. However the 1820 now has a low level buzz that wasn't there before.

Mar 11, 2025 10:25 AM in response to MartinR

First, thanks again, Martin, for your continued help with this issue.


Turns out I also have a Mackie ProFX, the ProFX12v3. As one of my first troubleshooting efforts, I paired the mini with the ProFX. Although there was no output there either, I, probably incorrectly, assumed that if there were an interface that wouldn't have been updated to comply with Apple silicon it would be this seldom used interface. You have shown this assumption to be totally wrong! BTW this is the only other interface I have on hand.


Once again I attached a 3' USB B-to-C cable from the mini to the Mackie. No cigar. I created a second multi-output group bundling the ProFX and the mini speakers. In the drop down Primary Device selector I alternately chose each. 


I appreciate your Audio MIDI screenshot which clearly shows "built-in output" and "built-in microphone" neither of which is present on my screen. Instead I see "Mac mini speakers". The other four items listed are now "ProFX", "Dell U4320Q", and the two groups I created: "UMC and Apple" and "PROFX and Apple".


I'm not sure what can be surmised from these results. Although we are now using the same interface (?), the device choices on my Audio MIDI screen are definitely different from yours. Hardware differences? OS differences? Unless you suggest otherwise, I'd think my next move might be to acquire another interface. But it would have to be one known to work with a Mac mini M4 and on Sequoia 15.3.1. Do you know of one that's also budget friendly? 

Mar 12, 2025 06:36 AM in response to MartinR


The issue between the Mac mini and the Behringer UMC1820 interface

has been identified and at least partially resolved! Using a second

interface as you suggested, Martin, was key to unraveling the

problem. I connected the ProFX mixer using the settings you

described, which is how I have used it with the PC. Again it didn’t

work with the mini.


When I have used the ProFX with the PC I have gone into Windows Control Panel and Control

Audio Devices. And there I’ve had to select outputs 3 and 4 as you

mentioned, when you might expect to use outs 1 and 2.


When I went to the “Audio MIDI” window on the mini, all outputs 1 thru 4 were

selected. I deselected 1 and 2, leaving 3 and 4 selected. No output.

So, of course, I deselected 3 and 4 and selected 1 and 2. Again, no

output. I tried other combinations: 1 and 3, 2 and 4. None of these

yielded an output to the ProFX, but I did notice something: the

“mute” button above the “select” buttons.


I had previously clicked on that mute button (and it does properly depress with a

click) to no effect, but now I realized that it wasn’t a mute

button, but rather a header above the buttons below. I had been

seeing these “buttons” as indicators that that particular input

was selected. They are in fact lit blue with an embedded check mark.

But they are not selectors, rather they are mute buttons which kill

the output of the selected output.


So, Mac rookie mistake? Yes, I’ll take the hit, mostly. In my defense, support

techs from Apple and Sweetwater looked at the “audio MIDI” screen

remotely and gave it a thumbs up. And, as well as I can remember,

these buttons were lit and the outputs muted by default, but I

wouldn’t bet my mini on it.


Martin, thanks again for the time and effort you’ve spent on this. Been floundering and

consistently overlooking for a while now and you truly led to the

remedy. Much appreciated!

This thread has been closed by the system or the community team. You may vote for any posts you find helpful, or search the Community for additional answers.

No USB output from Behringer UMC1820 interface on Mac mini M4 with Sequoia 15.3.1

Welcome to Apple Support Community
A forum where Apple customers help each other with their products. Get started with your Apple Account.