how do I disable automatic window resizing in Sequoia

CesareMedici wrote:

@dialabrain Never assume everyone's using the exact same setup as you. (In my case, it was a combination of Dell's DDPM monitor software and the Sequoia update that caused this hard-to-debug issue.)

I don't. And in your case it was the Dell software not being compatible with Sequoia. Not a Sequoia issue.

@dialabrain It's a Sequoia issue in any case. Why would Dell's DDPM software start behaving differently from how it did for more than a year?

I'm not blaming Apple for this, but any major change can have inadvertent consequences.

The lesson to learn is to look at edge cases, too. It doesn't help telling people "it works for me and everyone else" when they might have different setups.

I can assure you, based on 40 years in the Operating System business, that anytime an OS release breaks layered SW that uses supported public APIs, its developers would consider it a bug.

Without apps, an OS along is useless to anyone except programmers, so OS developers work VERY HARD to maintain backward compatibility, while ALSO releasing new features. If they need to break compatibility, they deprecate said API and announce an end-of-life release after which apps are no longer guaranteed to work. It is exactly these values that make Apple and MacOS beloved in the developer world.

Of course @dialabrain. And if said developer suspects that a supported public interface has been broken, they are entitled and expected to file it as a bug - beta is as much a service to Apple as it is to the developer. Whether or when Apple fixes the broken API or the developer works around the bug is a business decision made by each party. It doesn't change the fact that breaking a supported public interface is a bug.

I disabled that as soon as I got this version. I have turned off everything that I can find and I still can't get my desktop windows to work right. I have no idea why Apple believes that the only way we will love their x-dates is by turning them on and not mapping how to turn them off. If this were an airplane it would not fly.

WigglyWaggly wrote:

Thank you! I am sure someone requested this feature, but nice to know you can make it go away.

I really have no need for it, but it is probably one of the most requested features I have seen on these forums.However, I don’t see how it’s obtrusive at all. I move my window where I want it. A little outline pops up. I moved the window a little bit more and the little outline goes away. I drop my window where I wanted it.

The thing is, I WANT to tile windows by going to the screen edge. I do NOT want them to resize to my full 48" monitor when I do it. The resizing behavior happens to me any time I try to move a window, whether it hits the top of the screen or not. Super annoying. I guess I will go back to Magnet - https://apps.apple.com/us/app/magnet/id441258766?mt=12

Wouldn’t that be nice if it was true. I am not the only one here reporting the issue. I rarely get the marquee. It just resizes. The whole 48”. I have tried always moving down first just to be sure it isn’t resizing as a result of hitting the top. Nope. Doesn’t help.

I went to Sys settings->Desktop & Dock->Windows and turned off all four switches there. However if I come back and look again, the "Drag windows to menu bar to fill screen" stays on. This is something I definitely do not want. Why can't I turn it off?

Although turning off each and every one of the new "Tiling" functions in system preferences diminishes the effect - it does NOT remove it altogether. There is SOMETHING, some elusive "gesture" that normal Mac users do dragging windows here and there - that still causes the window to "maximize" (not to "Full screen" mode - just take the whole size of your current screen), which drives me nuts.

Old Mac users like myself (since 1987) are pretty strict with where their windows should be and what size they are. I find myself cursing again and again, trying in vain to maintain my "work bench" so I can see things I need together, drag things from one window to another quickly etc.

This is - again - Apple crumbling down on us. The Mac really "gets in your way" nowadays. Zillion authentications, Zillion "no, you can't do that", Lots of functionality REMOVED from apple Apps, in favor of more and more cluttered eye-candy visual effects that help NOTHING with your work and fun.

Even the "Focus" feature (presumably made to help user stay in Focus) takes all your focus for itself!!! what huge configuration strain and things just "happen" all the time while you're trying to work.

This issue with Windows is just the last straw.

It's time some decent engineers left Apple to write a new operating system-- for the rest of us.

Jo! wrote:

That does not show the original behavior of the green button from before sequoia.

optionkey down used to allow window resizing as a toggle: this way it was easy to fit a document exactly in its own window.

is there no one who knows how to turn it of in terminal??

Zoom from the Green dot is gone. They slowly killed it with Full Screen. Now tiling has ended its existence.

You can set double-click on title bar to zoom in Desktop & Dock preferences.

d.s.cobb wrote:

I can assure you, based on 40 years in the Operating System business, …

Well, I can assure you, based on almost 40 years of macOS experience, that lately (last few years) some features ar shoved down our throat, some disappearing again after loads of complaint.

This one is not a bug I guess but intentionally put there, but I hope it is and it will be repaired in the next issue

Thanks so much. I HATE HATE HATE the way windows expand to fill the screen when I drag to the top. This was a huge UI fail on Apple's part. Maybe the worst thing they did in usability since the mouse where you couldn't orient it because it was a round puck.

SoSmall wrote:

Thanks for the tip, dialabrain. Who even asked for this feature? The most annoying thing Apple have added in recent years.

no, that was stage manager, and the launchpad before that, and full screen before that.

This is the worst "feature" I've experienced on my Mac. I spend time resizing windows smaller, and a few minutes later the system decided I need full screen. I hope that turning off the tiling options fix it. Take one point out of Apple's "win" column for this.