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Sequoia Calculator Paper Tape Gone?

Just upgraded to Sequoia. Lots of niceness; hooray, blah, blah, blah...


I use the Calculator - all the time; I use the Paper Tape - all the time.


Where did the Paper Tape go?


I see there is now a "Show History" - but it's grayed out when using "Scientific" in "RPN" mode.


Wait; what...?


Is there another toggle / workaround?


Matt

MacBook Pro 14″

Posted on Sep 17, 2024 2:56 PM

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Posted on Sep 22, 2024 11:25 PM

Literally the app I used every single day no matter what and the tape is why I never switched to a different calc app...for YEARS. Now it's useless for me.


I really hate Apple sometimes 🤦‍♂️

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Oct 4, 2024 12:45 AM in response to MattBeef

how I miss the good old "Paper tape"!!!

The "History" is so far from the Paper tape and looks terrible!

Who knows how to return the old version of the calculator?

I wait for each update with the fear that they will castrate this or that useful function again.

P.S.

I don't want to use third party apps

PLEASE bring back the old calculator!

Sep 27, 2024 11:33 PM in response to MattBeef


PCalc on the App Store is the absolute BOMB

https://apps.apple.com/us/app/pcalc/id403504866?mt=12


Too many features to list. But it still has paper tape and it's far superior.

Supports RPN as well as being able to resize the window.

Lots of themes and you can actually edit the buttons to customize it.


It behaves far more like a real calculator.

Sep 26, 2024 12:53 PM in response to MattBeef

MattBeef wrote:

Apple could have implemented "the new user interface" while still leaving the tried & true (and elegant) Paper Tape as an option.

They could have. But Apple generally doesn't go that direction. They try to make things more simple rather than more complicated, at least from the user interface perspective. They always make it more complicated underneath.


I think in this case, the big problem was the "paper tape" itself. That's a relic of another age. They probably did a focus group of Mac users and asked them what they thought of the calculator. Everyone used it. They asked how it could be better. People responded that they wanted to be able to see their calculations and edit them. They also wanted a history. The Apple researched asked, "but what about the paper tape?" The response was, "what's a paper tape?" And here we are. That probably didn't happen, but it could have.

Sep 23, 2024 11:11 AM in response to MattBeef

The new "History" tab is significantly different than the old "Paper tape".


The paper tape would translate mathematical operations into whatever low-level code was used. So if you type ∛5 in the old version, it is going to show "pow(5, 1/3)" in the paper tape. Yeah, that's kinda the same, but also kinda not. It makes sense to a programmer but maybe not to someone who is just doing the math.


The paper tape is also just what it says - a paper tape. It's just a text representation of all the operations. You can copy the text out and paste it into a web forum perhaps, but that's about all. It's just a big text field.


The new history display is smarter. It is a list of operations. You can click on each one to replay it, seeing exactly what the equation was and the result. You can click on the original equation and change it. If your equation is ∛5, then that is what is represented in the history.


You can even copy an equation to clipboard. Certainly can't do that with the old version.


Due to the unusual data entry method used by RPN mode, it's simply not possible to represent, and replay, that in the new user interface. And yes, there might be some "programmer" bias here. We all had to do RPN back in school. And we all hated it. Still do.

Oct 4, 2024 7:08 AM in response to MattBeef

MattBeef wrote:

Is there another toggle / workaround?


Original Poster, here. I've been monitoring this discussion and have appreciated the input. Some very good.


Best Solution: Get PCalc from the App Store and move on.


BTW, PCalc is FANTASTIC! I'll never go back to MacOS Calculator (unless Apple buys / implements PCalc).


This discussion has been fun, but I'm out. See ya on the next topic.


mlg

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