Persistent horizontal lines appear on iMac screen

I am reaching out to share an ongoing issue I, along with several other users, have been experiencing with our iMac 24-inch models, and to seek a collective resolution.


Problem Description:

  • Persistent horizontal lines appear on the screen, which significantly hampers the usability and visual appeal of the device.
  • This problem arises without any physical damage, and despite the stationary nature of the device.


Steps Taken:

  • Connected to an external display: The external display works fine, indicating the issue is with the iMac's internal display.
  • Reinstalled the OS: The problem persisted post reinstallation.
  • Avoided operating the iMac for a week: No change in the situation.


Concerns:

  • The cost of screen replacement is high, and there's no assurance that it will resolve the issue permanently.
  • The quality concern is alarming especially for a brand that positions itself as a premium segment player.
  • The support received thus far has been unsatisfactory, with no definitive solutions provided apart from a costly screen replacement suggestion.





Please do not ask us to visit to service center and replace the screen for 650USD + , problem happens mostly after warranty.


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iMac (M1, 2021)

Posted on Oct 21, 2023 10:40 AM

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Posted on May 26, 2024 06:08 PM

I just received my repaired Imac. every thing looks beautiful and it is just like new! It only took 3 days total to fix and I paid zero :)


I am very thankful.


Overal process:

1. Kept apple in good consciousness and practiced released judgment and frustration and remained in forgiveness and non-attached frequency. 2 Reached to chat support and requested senior advisor 3. Had a genuine conversion about my appreciation for apple and how there is a case of manufacturing that can be happy to any company and requested for them to investigate this thread - as it is well documented. (Thanks to all of you) 4. She forwarded it to engineers and requested the photos and files from me, and within a few days had been approved for repair.


I trust this can be done for all the other people with the same issue and hopefully in the future if it happened again they can upgrade us to a newer model. May be we can all get an M3 ? :P


Talk soon!

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Apr 21, 2024 07:59 PM in response to Old Toad

Dear Old Toad,


According to Apple support, it's an LCD malfunction and the only solution is to replace it.

So it's not a software problem.

It's a hardware problem.

That's already established.


So to everyone who has this problem, there's no point in wasting time trying to find out which App is causing it or which OS update is to blame and reinstalling the OS and all the Apps again and risking losing data trying to solve a problem that has already been determined to be a hardware issue.


Apr 24, 2024 03:34 AM in response to latVm

Horizontal Lines happened to me just today. Bought in Jan 2022. Happened after like 27 months.


Crazy part is display issue happened for me on macbook pro 2017 15 inch after 3.5 years of purchase. Got it replaced for Rs 54000 in india. And keyboard was replaced on it once under warranty.

But keyboard malfunctioned on it too and still does not works effectively. But macbook works nice with external monitor still.


Bought iMac so that if keyboard malfunctions , i can buy it. And it did, after like 16 months, keyboard key 0 stopped working. Bought new keyboard.

But now display issue and that too device that has been on the same place not like moving with macbook.

Again spending same on display. will be too much loss.

Never needed AppleCare before but it seems i should have bought it with iMac.

Just this morning, my 14 pro max dropped and broke back glass but atleast it was my fault not in imac's case.

Double loss on same day. 24/04/2024. I will not forget this day.

This one is 4 usb-c. two fan model.


May 19, 2024 08:45 PM in response to latVm

According to the Apple support team I contacted, it's an LCD malfunction and the only solution is to replace it.


What they didn't say was why this problem is occurring after two years of using the iMac on so many computers.


So, as Apple hasn't yet assumed that it's their fault, what I did, given the lack of concrete answers from Apple, was to take my iMac to a technician and ask him to assess the problem to see if it's a construction problem or just a random fault.


The explanation I was given was as follows:


In terms of circuitry, everything seems to be working properly.


The problem, apparently, lies in a cable that also powers the LCD, which is located on one of the tops of the screen, and which, in order to be replaced, requires detaching the screen glass from the LCD itself, which is a very sensitive operation and almost impossible to carry out without damaging the LCD.


So the only option is to replace the entire LCD (LCD+main boards+screen glass).


Also, according to the technician's explanation, this cable (of the FFC/FPC type or Flat Flexible Cable / Flexible Printed Circuit), it has to sustain a very high voltage (around 50V) to power the LCD (this despite the iMac's power supply being 15.9V), and it heats up a lot!


So, what happens after a while (in this case after about 2 years) is that it starts to burn out and degrade at the connector, to the point where it lets the signals leak between the various connectors and short-circuits some of them, which ends up causing those lines that we are all unfortunately familiar with.


The level of brightness makes a fundamental contribution to this problem. Thus, the higher the brightness used, the sooner the problem occurs.


This is easily understood by measuring the difference in temperature at the top of the screen when it is at its lowest brightness level, compared to when it is at its highest. It's quite a big difference!


When it's at its lowest brightness, it's practically room temperature; when it's at its highest, you can almost "fry an egg"!


I think that as soon as Apple recognizes that there is a problem with these computers, the first thing it will do is make a change to the OS that reduces the maximum brightness limit allowed (to less than 500 nits). Time will tell...


Why does this happen?

For at least one of three reasons:

1- a design flaw - so this problem is likely to occur in a large number of devices;

2- a defect in components - the problem is limited to a few cases;

3- use of components below Apple's standards - the problem may be limited, or more widespread.


This was the explanation I was given. I'm not a technician. Only Apple will know the exact reason(s).


If I had to guess, I'd say that I don't believe it's a design fault, because Apple has an obligation to be very careful about that; I also don't think it's a fault with the component(s) because it seems to be happening all over the planet and doesn't seem to be localized; so I think it's due to the use of component(s) below, or at the limit of, Apple's standards which, when put under extreme stress (higher brightness), end up failing.


I think it's already clear to everyone that this is a design or manufacturing defect in this Apple model.


So let's hope that Apple takes on this construction problem and repairs it or at least contributes part of the cost of the (overly expensive) repair of our computers.


If it were a car, surely all our computers would be called into the workshop to replace the component that has broken down or is in the process of breaking down.


As it's a computer... let's hope that Apple will behave in a way that suits its customers, who believe in the above-average Apple standard...


So keep presenting your cases to Apple.

May 20, 2024 07:31 AM in response to Jotap62

The tech that did your analysis was thorough. Thats awesome since it's something Apple Stores people will never do for us. If the part is replaced with the same type of components then failure is again inevitable within 2-3 years. Perhaps if the display is set to 50%-60% and turn off auto brightness to prevent ramping it up higher will help make it last longer? Maybe? Sadly unlike cars which can endanger the passengers life, Federal Agencies monitor this, computers are not subject to same Federal Consumer Safety guidelines for component failure. If that component does not pose a safety risk. Like Fire, explosion type results from a component failure.

May 28, 2024 03:54 AM in response to erinaki

Hello @erinaki. I called apple again after like 20 days explained this, that someone is being offered free replacement. They were not quoting price. They said reach the genius bar, drove 1 hour 30 minutes in 48 degree celsius heat to reach the mall, there the genius bar said different countries have different rules/laws. And said i have to pay for this. I thought for a while and had no alternatives.

this is the 2nd mac on which i had to change the display by paying. But it was after 3.5 years on that macbook pro 2017 which was like even if i had apple care , wouldnt have mattered but in the case of imac, it was really necessary like the keyboard failed on me and this display now. Even all my future apple products, will make sure to buy apple care. First time broke my iphone back, because of not so good protection case. And back glass can be changed at like 50 dollars outside local shop but he said i will lose waterproof which is sad

Jun 10, 2024 04:51 PM in response to latVm

I have same problem. 2021 24 inch M1 Desktop Mac. Bought Dec 2021, lines turn up May 24. A little bit more than 2 years. Emailed Tim, hasn't gotten a reply yet.


I find recent apple products' built quality gotten worst. As example the Macbook light i bought 10 years ago last till today. The subsequent 2 macbook i bought, 1 died after a reasonable few years. And 2nd one the screen turned flakey but apple change the screen free for me credit to them.


But it's a worrying trend. If this persist.. i think i'll just stick to iphones going forward.

Jun 20, 2024 05:45 PM in response to Alok_Mishra

Dear Alok Mishra,


According to someone, apparently, the problem lies in a cable that also powers the LCD.

This cable (of the FFC/FPC type or Flat Flexible Cable / Flexible Printed Circuit), has to sustain a very high voltage (around 50V) to power the LCD.

After a while (in this case after about 2 years) it starts to burn out and degrade at the connector side, to the point where it lets the signals leak between the various connectors and short-circuits some of them, which ends up causing those lines that we are all unfortunately familiar with.

The "ghost" we see is the signal bleeding from one line to the other due to the short circuits caused by the heating and cable degradation.

That was explained to me by someone who is a technician. But because I'm not a technician, the explanation may not be 100% precise. But I think it's quite accurate and clearly points to a hardware fault.


Jun 22, 2024 09:40 AM in response to VanCitySean

Friends, I was able to communicate with the senior support and they gave me free repair beyond warantee!


Here are the steps to use to do the same.


1. Submit the evidence and pictures on here Persistent horizontal lines appear on iMa… - Apple Community

2. Contact Mac and file a case using the steps below to speak with politeness and professionalism.

* Immediately ask for a manager and senior rep.

. Share the evidence that this is a well documented break down on Apple's manufacturing and state how long you have been a customer.

. Submit request for investigation. Then wait patiently.

Here are some perspectives you can take when negotiating with Apple

1. Known Issue:

  1. Gather Evidence: Search online forums and news articles documenting similar screen issues with the 2021 M1 iMac 24". Highlight the number of affected users (hundreds) to demonstrate the widespread nature of the problem.
  2. Present Calmly: State that you've discovered numerous reports of similar screen failures on M1 iMacs beyond warranty, suggesting a potential design or manufacturing flaw.

2. Reasonable Request:

  1. Focus on a Solution: Don't just express frustration. Acknowledge their standard warranty policy but politely request a one-time exception due to the documented issue.
  2. Be Open to Options: Express your willingness to consider a repair at a discounted rate or a partial store credit towards a newer model, depending on what they offer.

3. Emphasize Loyalty:

  1. Positive Past Experiences: Briefly mention your history of using Apple products and your overall satisfaction (if applicable).
  2. Future Customer: Express your hope to continue using Apple products but highlight that a fair resolution would solidify your trust in the brand.

Additional Tips:

  1. Be Polite and Professional: Maintain a calm and respectful tone throughout the conversation.
  2. Be Persistent: If your initial request is denied, politely ask to speak with a supervisor or manager and reiterate your points.
  3. Document Everything: Keep copies of emails, chat transcripts, or call recordings if possible.


Here's an example script you can adapt:

"Hi, I'm contacting you about my 2021 M1 iMac 24" that recently developed lines on the screen. Unfortunately, it's beyond the warranty period.

While researching the issue, I came across numerous online reports of similar screen failures with this specific model. This suggests a potential widespread problem.

I understand your warranty policy, but I would greatly appreciate it if you could consider a one-time exception due to the documented issue. I'm a loyal Apple customer and would be happy to discuss options like a discounted repair or store credit towards a newer model.

Thank you for your time and consideration."

Remember, negotiation is a conversation. Be prepared to listen to their response and be flexible within reason.

By presenting your case with evidence, a reasonable request, and a positive tone, you increase your chances of a favorable outcome.



Jun 22, 2024 04:41 PM in response to VanCitySean

Dear VanCitySean,


I followed exactly all the steps you advise.

I managed to speak to a supervisor in Ireland, which is Apple's base of operations in Europe (case # 102 . 307 . 107 . 711).

The conversation was very nice and friendly. The supervisor even offered to call the next day with more information.

In fact, the next day the supervisor got back to me, but all I got was "I'm sorry I can't be of more help, but since it's out of warranty, Apple can't fix the monitor until a replacement program is set up, which is an exception created by Apple for special cases of widespread equipment breakdowns".

So the solution really is to wait for other cases besides yours to develop and see what solutions Apple comes up with, because for now Apple isn't taking any responsibility for these failures. At least here in Europe.

For you to have been able to solve your problem with such understanding on Apple's part, I assume you're in the USA.

I believe that at Apple's headquarters, the value of a good brand image is more important than the cost of repairing these devices. So it's easier for Apple to take decisions more quickly.

Here in Europe it will be different. They have to report to Apple's headquarters, so decisions take longer...

So, despite this problem, you're a lucky guy ;-) to be in the USA...

Nov 3, 2024 08:31 AM in response to IkeApple

I have M3, 24gb RAM 4 ports. I keep my iMac always on, just sleep when not in use. I've been using it today for at least 3 hours straight. Temperature on that spot is 83 degrees. Top left is 83, top middle is 87, top right is 86, right middle is 83, bottom right 81, bottom left 81, middle 94. I'm Processing a large image with Topaz Ai and the fans are running fast since it's processor intensive. These are temperatures. When idle is much cooler. So based on your image, I don't know if you took the temperature on that spot, something is clearly wrong to go so hot that it's causing it to discolor there. Thats not good at all.

Persistent horizontal lines appear on iMac screen

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