Homekit - devices issues (iOS 16.2?)

I've recently experience issues with certain devices in my HomeKit. I'll list the devices below, but the odd thing is, it's not even all devices of a certain brand. I only have 2 Homekit managed only devices - which are both unresponsive, but all these things are online per my wifi router info. The rest of the devices that are unresponsive work just fine in their respective Mfr apps and even with Alexa (yes, I use both).


Unresponsive: Ecobee, Kasa smart plugs (EP25, not all are having issues), all of my Lutron Caseta switches, Vocolinc LED light strip, Meross smart bulb, Wemo switches.


Things that ARE working fine: some Kasa smart plugs (EP25), Aqara cameras, door sensors, motion sensors, light switch, Eufy camera, everything connected through HOOBS.


I have not upgraded to the new HK architecture, as far as I am aware. I think this was a manual step? My OSes are as follows:

  1. iOS 16.2
  2. Mac OS 13.1
  3. tvOS 16.2


I've rebooted my HK hubs, wifi, to. no avail. I am not yet ready to try removing devices and re-add. Seems like a heavy lift if I went down that road. Rebuilding all the rooms, automations, etc...I'm hoping a fix is just magically released soon but I have no idea what is happening.

The timing of this would suggest it has something to do with the recent Apple HK architecture pause...

Please help.

Posted on Dec 27, 2022 06:53 PM

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Dec 28, 2022 06:04 PM in response to ajcamm

Hello ajcamm,


You've tried some good steps already, including resetting the modem/router.


The next step to try would be to delete the affected accessories from the Home app, and then set them up again. To set it up again you may need to reset the accessory to factory settings. If unsure how you may try checking with the manufacturer or included manual.


Forcing the Home app to quit and then relaunching it may help as well.


Cheers.

Dec 29, 2022 01:42 PM in response to ajcamm

I have a similar problem. The HomeKit 16.2 architecture ‘upgrade’ completely killed all my accessories in both my homes except for my tado thermostat. I found that resetting some accessories resulted in them working again in their own apps… but re-adding to Apple Home breaks them again. I spoke to an Apple support person who told me they’ve got loads of incoming complaints about this and their engineers are just working through the problems but they couldn’t help me. Sounds like to total cluster flip. No fix, nothing you can do apart from ditch HomeKit and move to Alexa.

Jan 6, 2023 06:22 PM in response to ajcamm

I removed all of my devices.

Removed the Home in the HomeKit App.

Factory reset the roughly 3 dozen devices. Created a new Home in the app.

Added everything back in.


I now get intermittent issues with devices failing to respond. They ALL take 5-7 seconds showing “Updating…” every time I open the app. The automations fail to work. I cannot see anything when outside the home (ie not connected to the same network).


This update has utterly destroyed the Apple HomeKit and they need to fix it. I am not a novice user and I have dozens of Apple products. This was not an issue before the update.

Jan 9, 2023 10:34 AM in response to ajcamm

I ended up removing every HomePod from my set up and things have improved 100 fold. Things are staying online, my automations work, everything is behaving as expected. So until Apple fixes their HomePod software, all 14 of my HomePod minis just get to sit there doing nothing.


This was such a massive failure on Apple’s part it is staggering. People should be fired over this mess.

Jan 9, 2023 01:13 PM in response to ajcamm

Not that I've seen anywhere, but I noticed that when one of my HomePods took over as the HomeHub everything went down and would take 5+ seconds to respond, if it would at all. So I tried to remove the one that was the acting HomeHub. HomeHub then went to one of my AppleTVs and things worked OK, then I noticed a HomePod again took over the HomeHub status, so I went through and removed them all. Everything else has worked without issue all day today, whereas before I would get maybe an hour max before things started showing as Not Responding again.


No idea what they did to the HomePods but it looks to me like trying to integrate Matter into them totally screwed them up. Apple really needs to make it possible to choose WHICH device is acting as the HomeHub and not jump around all over the network, that would probably help tremendously.

Jan 9, 2023 02:29 PM in response to ajcamm

You can't. It isn't an option with the HomePods, original or the Mini. It's been an issue noted by others before, the original Mini's don't work well with Thread, now it seems none of them work well with anything in HomeKit. It's been 8 hours now since I removed all of my HomePods and everything is still working in my HomeKit set up. For me at least, this has solved my issue. Somewhat anyway. It's annoying to have 14 Minis and an original just sitting here not able to be used.

Feb 6, 2023 06:39 AM in response to jereomy186

This is a very important point, and one that I explored with a fairly senior and helpful Apple tech... Though we didn’t arrive at a definite solution. Long story below, but with hope it will be helpful so someone.


My problem started in early February when I added a third HomePod mini, then upgraded it (and all my other devices, including a first gen Homepod and two Apple TVs) to the latest architecture, 16.3 for most of them. My home has about 30 connected devices, mainly Philips Hue lights but also some iDevices outlets.


After I made the addition and upgrades, every connected light/plug started to show “No response.” I could control these devices via their native apps (like the Hue app) but not via my phone, desktop, Siri, etc. The HomePods worked fine for standard stuff like playing music, getting weather reports, etc.


I tried everything obvious, including removing the Philips bridge from my Home app and then painstakingly adding everything back. Too forever... And it made no difference.


After several calls with Apple, I noticed that in the list of hubs the brand new Mini was listed as “Connected” while the others were listed as on “Standby.”


Once I unplugged the new Mini, it reverted to treating my main Apple TV 4K as “Connected”—and all the lights and plugs came back. I could control them all again as I had before.


Here’s the key thing: Some time ago extended my wifi network to an outbuilding (my barn, via TP-Link repeaters). The signal to the outbuilding is only 15% of the hardwired fiber bandwidth in the house, but it’s good enough for my purposes, which include a projector setup. I can still stream 4K movies there with the weaker signal. The uplink is similar—lower than the high-bandwidth in the house, but good enough.


But for whatever reason, it seems that when the new Mini in the outbuilding gets chosen as the Connected hub, HomeKit then fails to “see” all the connected devices in the house... Even though it shows up as part of my network, and I can do stuff remotely from the house like check the temperature in the room with the new Mini.


The outbuilding has a router of its own. The Apple tech theorized that for whatever reason, HomeKit was deferring to that router in choosing the Connected hub... which I can’t quite figure, since for example my main home Apple TV is actually right next to my router and has a far stronger connection.


It does seem that you used to be able to force HomeKit to prefer or prioritize among your hubs, but that this functionality dropped out with some recent update, maybe 16.2 or as late as 16.3. It would seem that Apple should restore that functionality.


The tech said that the software now runs some kind of network analysis/algorithm to “pick” the connected hub. It might just be whichever one is currently most active, or have something to do with how it assesses your network health.


His suggestion—though he admitted that IT is no longer his speciality—was to explore ways for my sub-router in the outbuilding to deter HomeKit from picking that Mini as the main connected hub. One suggestion he had was shutting off NAT there, which I can probably figure out how to do, but I too am not an IT pro, just someone who has tinkered with ports etc. when absolutely necessary, a lot of trial-and-error.


Anyway, the short-term fix is for me to not have the Mini in my outbuilding. I also have an AppleTV 4K in there, but for whatever reason my HomeKit has not prioritized it as the Connected hub or that has not resulted in the same loss of device controls, at least not that I’ve noticed.


Sorry for the long post, but this issue has not gotten much attention, and this was the first post I found which mentioned it. Apple, restore that function in the next update, please!


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