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Catalina won't display "more info" on JPG images (external drive)

I decided to abandon my internal fusion HDD on my 2019 3.7 iMac due to slow speeds - and go with a bootable external Thunderbolt 3 SSD as the boot drive while also moving from Mojave (still there as a backup on the internal) to Catalina... (on the SSD)


As a result I'm now keeping all my files on externals (not the boot drive) - one bad side effect of this seems to be that Finder is unable to display any information about external JPG files. See screenshot. If I drop that same file on the desktop - or look on the non-boot internal Fusion HDD, all the info becomes available - so it's just not able to display the info from external.


Any way to fix this?




Posted on Jul 27, 2021 5:21 PM

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Posted on Jul 28, 2021 11:40 AM

I am wondering if your external drive, where the images show nothing for the More Info in the Finder Get Info panel, is not indexed by Spotlight (Images). Also, the Finder Preview Window and Preview Options panel allow more information as one scrolls in that Preview window, than is possible to display in the Get Info panel.


When you open that same JPG from the external drive in Preview, and open Preview's Inspector (⌘+i), do you have General, Exif, GPS, and TIFF tabs available (with respective data) under the Info ⓘ toolbar item?

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Jul 28, 2021 11:40 AM in response to igirl1

I am wondering if your external drive, where the images show nothing for the More Info in the Finder Get Info panel, is not indexed by Spotlight (Images). Also, the Finder Preview Window and Preview Options panel allow more information as one scrolls in that Preview window, than is possible to display in the Get Info panel.


When you open that same JPG from the external drive in Preview, and open Preview's Inspector (⌘+i), do you have General, Exif, GPS, and TIFF tabs available (with respective data) under the Info ⓘ toolbar item?

Jul 27, 2021 8:18 PM in response to steve626

Thanks so much for the effort! It's made me think about it more. The same file copied to another external drive (or boot SSD desktop) DOES show the full info.


So -

1. The file info isn't missing -

and

  • 2 - it's something global to do with the HDD. • One of my other externals is also behaving this way! • (That's now two of them!) All JPGs on both external drives behave this way.


Checking further - Another external drive isn't showing this problem. Neither does the iMac internal.


Other than the SSD all my externals have been formatted GUID HFS+ (99.9% sure about this)

The Internal Fusion is APFS as is the SSD.


I thought at first maybe my Chronosync copying stripped some metadata info - but making copies of files and seeing the full data on the copy, eliminated that possibility....




Jul 27, 2021 7:24 PM in response to igirl1

I tried to reproduce this on an external drive that I created as a bootable clone (to try to mimic your situation as you are booting from an external drive, so I made the external bootable). But whatever files I check I see the same identical "more info" text, these files were simply copied over to the external drive. I am wondering if the reason is that your internal drive was HFS+ (is it?) but the eternal Catalina boot drive is APFS? Just trying to explore what could be different with your situation (both my internal and external drives are APFS, both are Catalina) ...


Jul 28, 2021 7:02 AM in response to steve626

Thanks again.


Is there anything unusual about the way you originally moved or copied those files over to that external disk that does not show the more info?

Its mostly been a mix of drag copy and Chronosync (a program that clones files/drives and more). As a SUPER simple test - I copied a screenshot from my current boot SSD Catalina desktop to each of the other drives. Two out of 3 I tried this with do not show the file info. (see below)


Do you have any non-Apple disk tools installed in connection with any of these external drives?

Nothing


Any other security, anti-virus, or "clean" software or tools?

None - I avoid these types of programs. The whole point of putting Catalina on the SSD was to strip the boot drive down to bare minimums.


FWIW I do photography and have tens of thousands of images on these (backup/work) drives - so the "info" is more than just a convenience for me.


Complete drive info screenshot. Seagate 8TB and WD 5TB at the top are both not showing the file info - Macintosh HD (internal) and Seagate 8TB 2021 both display the file info properly. I've got other externals to test as well, but for now figuring it on on these would be nice. Apple Disk Utility First Aid - didn't help. Permissions on all the external drives at the root level are the same.


Jul 27, 2021 9:04 PM in response to igirl1

I checked another disk that is HFS+ and when mounted to the Catalina Mac it is showing all the "More info" like my APFS disks connected to the Catalina Mac do.


Is there anything unusual about the way you originally moved or copied those files over to that external disk that does not show the more info? Do you have any non-Apple disk tools installed in connection with any of these external drives? Any other security, anti-virus, or "clean" software or tools?

Jul 28, 2021 12:13 PM in response to VikingOSX

I am wondering if your external drive, where the images show nothing for the More Info in the Finder Get Info panel, is not indexed by Spotlight (Images).


You might be onto something here. I had previously put both the offending drives into Spotlight quarantine (do not index) - on my Mojave system (internal Fusion HDD). Even though I did a clean install on the brand new SSD, with a different MacOS - booting externally - inexplicably, somehow those preferences are still there. (No migrating anything!). I've now removed one of those drives from quarantine. It might take a day or more to index but we shall see if that's the solution. I'm guessing this might be it...


Also, the Finder Preview Window and Preview Options panel allow more information as one scrolls in that Preview window, than is possible to display in the Get Info panel. When you open that same JPG from the external drive in Preview, and open Preview's Inspector (⌘+i), do you have General, Exif, GPS, and TIFF tabs available (with respective data) under the Info ⓘ toolbar item?


Yes tried - Get Info has been completely empty to this point.

Jul 28, 2021 3:41 PM in response to VikingOSX

UPDATE - SOLVED! The drives being in Spotlight quarantine was the cause. Once the drive was removed from quarantine - the crawl updated the new data (indexing) and it began to appear on images again. My guess is - the drives themselves are flagged with the "do not index" tag when set to this state. So even though I changed systems, they held on to the quarantine flags until told otherwise.

Catalina won't display "more info" on JPG images (external drive)

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