Virus scan for Big Sur

My 24-year-old son called me today asking if there was a way to check for viruses on his 2020 (Intel) MacBook Pro that is still running Big Sur. He noticed some weirdness and is worried that he might have a virus. He tends to be a bit paranoid. I told him to avoid products like Clean My Mac, etc. I told him I would ask the Apple community to see his options. He noticed that all the little link icons for his Chrome "favorites" were replaced by the default icons. He also ran into an issue with Final Cut Pro, complaining about a corrupted library. I realize these are two unrelated things, but I promised I would ask around for him. Any suggestions? How can I talk him down? I assume Macs can get viruses, right? Thanks in advance

MacBook Pro (2017 – 2020)

Posted on Mar 13, 2025 10:39 PM

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Posted on Mar 14, 2025 12:04 PM

There are no viruses that affect macOS so there's that.


I assume Macs can get viruses, right?


Nope. However, there are plenty of "anti-virus" programs that are just as bad as "cleaning" programs. All such things are scams.


Ask your son to download and run EtreCheck, but posting its report here is best accomplished by using the affected Mac.


Instructions: How to use the Add Text Feature When Posting Large Amounts of Text, i.e. an Etrecheck Report - Apple Community

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Mar 14, 2025 12:04 PM in response to Alfredo Jahn

There are no viruses that affect macOS so there's that.


I assume Macs can get viruses, right?


Nope. However, there are plenty of "anti-virus" programs that are just as bad as "cleaning" programs. All such things are scams.


Ask your son to download and run EtreCheck, but posting its report here is best accomplished by using the affected Mac.


Instructions: How to use the Add Text Feature When Posting Large Amounts of Text, i.e. an Etrecheck Report - Apple Community

Mar 15, 2025 11:05 AM in response to Alfredo Jahn

In the modern IT vernacular, the phrase “something has changed and I don’t understand what just happened” has usually been shorted into “virus”.


And as stated in the reply above, the heavily advertised tools are themselves too often somewhere between adware, problematic and insecure and vulnerable messes, and malware with a EULA.


The add-on security tools aren’t appreciably better than the built-in anti-malware (XProtect, XProtect Remediator, the read-only macOS volume, Gatekeeper and notarization, etc). And they can be noisy. Or worse.


Though sometimes the add-on security apps do do something so profoundly stupid that the built-in anti-malware blocks it.


Some security add-ons badly solve problems that haven’t existed for a decade or so, but badly solve the non-problem in a way perfect for collecting personally-identified metadata, too.


More commonly, the issues being reported — once we get past the “virus” description — are utterly benign. These can be cache corruptions, or software bugs, or nascent hardware problems, and such. On older Macs, failing hard disk drives get slow, and the slowness and the corruptions can get reported as “viruses”, as an example.


If somebody loads cracked apps, keygen tools, or bypasses gatekeeper and such, all bets are off.


There is certainly junk around (cracked apps, sketchy security apps, traditional malware, etc), so it’s possible this is malware. But then a whole lot of malware also gets directly and deliberately installed. So is it really malware?


What to do?


Please post the Etrecheck data.


I’d probably also reboot through Safe Mode, to rebuilt the icon caches.

Mar 14, 2025 04:10 PM in response to Alfredo Jahn

The Chrome thing (guessing he means the favicons in his bookmarks bar all change to the Chrome default icon for sites with no favicon) is more likely an issue with his Chrome user profile. It happens often enough that there are plenty of posts on the Internet. Most solutions involve resetting Chrome.


If he thinks he has legitimate reason to be concerned about Malware - like spending time downloading cracked software from sketchy parts of the Internet - he could always install Malwarebytes and run a manual scan to look for anything from true malware to adware to Potentially Unwanted Programs (PUPs).

Mar 14, 2025 08:01 PM in response to g_wolfman

g_wolfman wrote:

If he thinks he has legitimate reason to be concerned about Malware - like spending time downloading cracked software from sketchy parts of the Internet - he could always install Malwarebytes and run a manual scan to look for anything from true malware to adware to Potentially Unwanted Programs (PUPs).

Does the free option allow him to remove malware and adware if it discovers them? I'm hoping it doesn't find any issues. And yes about the favicons. Thanks.

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