Is there an Apple ID work around for mobile carriers NOT supporting Apple Watch?

I’m wondering if this will work… I want to get an Apple Watch, but just switched to Mint Mobile (2/23 doesn’t support Apple Watch LTE). I am willing to purchase a plan with another carrier that does support Apple Watch LTE, and want to know if I will be able to receive my calls and texts on the two numbers if I connect them both to the same Apple ID. Any insight would be awesome!

iPhone XR, iOS 16

Posted on Feb 28, 2023 11:26 PM

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Mar 5, 2023 01:05 PM in response to FranchFry

What Dah•veed said.


This is Apple's explanation for using your Apple Watch with a 2nd SIM (or eSIM) on your iPhone

Use Dual SIM with Apple Watch GPS + Cellular models - Apple Support

Use Dual SIM iPhone with Apple Watch - Apple Support


There is no workaround to adding an Apple Watch to a Mint Mobile account for a prices similar to $10 U.S.


And if you were to get a 2nd phone number at Full Priced, and more expensive then Mint Mobile, then you might as well just switch your Mint Mobile phone number over to the more expensive cellular provider, and stop using Mint Mobile.


T-Mobile has some less expensive plans that do support the Apple Watch. Also some cable companies that also offer cellular also support the Apple Watch, such as Comcast/Xfinity and Spectrum cable (there may be others around the country), and these plans tend to be less expensive when bundled in with your cable services.


I realize it is possible you have Mint Mobile for reasons besides its low cost, but if cost is the only reason, and you are willing to pay for a second more expensive cellular plan in additional to Mint Mobile, it does not make sense to me.


Also, as a long time GPS only Apple Watch user, I always have my iPhone with me (I'm a guy with pockets, that does not care if it reunions the line of my clothes 😀). I have never missed having cellular on my Apple Watch.

My Wife on the other hand does not carry her iPhone in her pocket, and does own a cellular Apple Watch on a T-Mobile plan.


Limitations using a 2nd full priced cellular plan on your iPhone.


The Cellular Apple Watch is paired to your 2nd phone number, and shares the 2nd phone number.


When you are near your iPhone, both the 2nd and Mint numbers will ring on your Apple watch because the iPhone answers the calls, and uses Bluetooth to activate the Apple Watch speaker phone.


When you are away from your iPhone, ONLY the 2nd phone number will ring on your Apple Watch. Your Mint Mobile phone number will ring on your absent iPhone, and eventually go to voice mail.


If you use SMS/MMS TEXT messaging with Android phone users, or you have web site logins that send an SMS with a 2nd factor code to login, then ONLY SMS/MMS TEXT messages sent to your 2nd phone number will appear on your Apple Watch when you are away from your iPhone.


Those are the 2 biggest limitations to using a 2nd phone number and pairing that to your Apple Watch.


Most other services are Internet based, and the 2nd phone number provides vanilla Internet access which does not care about phone numbers, so your iMessage, email, calendar, Walkie-Talkie, FaceTime audio, weather, streaming music, etc... do not care what cellular carrier is carrying the data to you.


I'm understanding your post to mean that my unlocked eSIM is compatible with multiple cell service providers simultaneously, is this true?

The eSIM can be used with any carrier that will support an eSIM. It can be any carrier. Typically, it is used by business people that need a personal phone number and a business phone number, or by international travelers that want to get a local cellular service while out of the country because it is cheaper than the roaming chargers their cellular carrier will charge, and cheaper than the data chargers their carrier will charge when out of country.


But it has been used, mostly by users where the company owns the iPhone, to add a personal line which they can pair their Apple Watch. Again, the limitations mentioned above apply.


...could you expand on this too? If the watch’s service is prioritized, then I imagine that this would allow it to fully function when away from my iPhone - can I prioritize one number over the other instead of the cost making that determination?

The Apple Watch shares the phone number with the iPhone. This requires special support from the carrier. In some cases the carrier does not do this because it is not worth the effort by the carrier to implement this in their system.


Sometimes a carrier does not implement this because they are an MVNO, such as Mint Mobile and their contract with one of the Big 3 carriers in the U.S. does not allow them to offer Apple Watch support. To get Apple Watch support the MVNO would have to pay their Big 3 partner a lot more money and that would raise their inexpensive rates.


The above mentions Comcast/Xfinity and Spectrum are MVNO's that do pay their Big 3 partner extra for Apple Watch support.


So, no, you cannot change the priority of which phone line the Apple Watch pays attention to, when one of the lines does not directly support the Apple Watch.


My Wife is talking me for a walk. I have to end this here.

Mar 1, 2023 03:19 PM in response to FranchFry

If your iPhone supports a SIM and an eSIM or 2 eSIMs, then you can get a second full priced service from another carrier that supports the Apple Watch.


When away from your iPhone, ONLY the more expensive service would ring through on your Apple Watch, and only SMS/MMS messages via the more expensive service's phone number would appear when away from your iPhone.


iMessage would work, becuase that is Internet based, and the more expensive cellular service would provide the Internet data access, along with all the other Internet based services.


But if you are using Mint Mobile, I'm assuming you do not like throwing money away, and getting 2nd more expensive service is counter to that.


I've seen some users use this trick when they have a company iPhone that does not allow separate billing for the Apple Watch and the company will not pay for the Apple Watch connection.


NOTE: As long as your iPhone is nearby, the Apple Watch in GPS only mode will do EVERYTHING a cellular connected Apple Watch will do, even when your iPhone is using Mint. But you do need to take your iPhone with you when you go out, or the Apple Watch just becomes a time piece.

Mar 1, 2023 04:41 PM in response to BobHarris

Thanks for the detailed response and different examples, greatly appreciated! Can you expand on the first option? As I’ve unknowingly prevented myself from getting an LTE connected smart watch on Mint’s network, I’m willing to accept an increased payment as a work around.


My iPhone XR is using 1 of its 2 eSIM slots for my main phone number on Mint’s network. Can you please share more about what limitations may exist, and criteria be met in order to add an cellular Apple Watch (on different carrier) as the second eSIM?


I'm understanding your post to mean that my unlocked eSIM is compatible with multiple cell service providers simultaneously, is this true?


I also appreciate the heads up on which service the watch would prioritize when away from my iPhone, but am not understanding why the more expensive service is prioritized; could you expand on this too? If the watch’s service is prioritized, then I imagine that this would allow it to fully function when away from my iPhone - can I prioritize one number over the other instead of the cost making that determination? Oh… and, if the watch’s number were prioritized, would that mean that my phone wouldn’t receive calls/SMS/MMS if I didn’t have my watch nearby? Or, could my Apple ID be used to share any incoming cellular transmissions from the prioritized number to the other one using its cellular connection (similar to how you can use iMessage from your Apple ID email, if you lack cell service)?


Thanks again for the first response, and I’m hopeful another one may also be.

Mar 1, 2023 05:59 PM in response to FranchFry

You don't appear to fully grasp what he said.


You would need to contract a second, full-service iPhone cellular plan plus the extra for Watch support for use of your 2nd eSIM on your phone with one of those Big Three that provides watch support. You would have two phone plans and 2 phone numbers.


Because as I said in my 1st comment, the cellular watch has to be paired with an iPhone using the same carrier.

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