Nikon Z9 Compressed Raw Support in Apple Photos

The Nikon Z9 supports shooting in compressed RAW formats based on TiCoRAW. Apple Photos does not. The ARM SDK has been out from TiCoRAW for several months now. The Camera itself has been out for over a year.


Has anyone heard anything or is there any guidance from Apple on when support will happen? They support the uncompressed RAW. The compressed files are about half the size, which is a pretty big deal given how many Macs come with only 256GB of storage. I would think Apple would be all over the TiCoRAW thing for all the photos.


I can import compressed RAW. I can even see thumbnails. When I go to edit, the picture goes dark, and I can no longer see thumbnails. IF I select "Edit in.." and select an application that does support Z9 compressed RAW such as On1 plugins, then click done and save changes (with or without making changes in On1), I am suddenly able to see and edit the image in Apple Photos. I do not know if I am editing some other file format at that point (TFF, PNG, whatever). Either way, I would really like this to work in a less cumbersome fashion.

Posted on Feb 11, 2023 11:54 PM

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Posted on Feb 12, 2023 02:25 AM

No one outside of Apple knows what plans they have to support the other raw forms from this camera - or indeed, any camera. Apple don't announce these things in advance. Based on their behaviour it's not really a priority for them, so I would not expect them to add this. They don't don't support multiple raw formats for other cameras.


If storage is an issue you can run an Photos Library from an external drive formatted Mac OS Extended (Journaled) or apfs with no difficulty.


What gets sent to On1 is a tiff, that's what comes back and that's why you can see it subsequently.


I would wonder why, if you have On1, you're using Photos at all. On1 is a far more powerful application for the task and its raw support is independent of the OS.

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Feb 12, 2023 02:25 AM in response to v3rlon

No one outside of Apple knows what plans they have to support the other raw forms from this camera - or indeed, any camera. Apple don't announce these things in advance. Based on their behaviour it's not really a priority for them, so I would not expect them to add this. They don't don't support multiple raw formats for other cameras.


If storage is an issue you can run an Photos Library from an external drive formatted Mac OS Extended (Journaled) or apfs with no difficulty.


What gets sent to On1 is a tiff, that's what comes back and that's why you can see it subsequently.


I would wonder why, if you have On1, you're using Photos at all. On1 is a far more powerful application for the task and its raw support is independent of the OS.

Feb 12, 2023 07:23 AM in response to Yer_Man

On1 plug-ins (or the full package) make for powerful editing.


Apple Photos isn’t bad for editing most photos, though. I use other tools when more power is required. Photos, however, is very, very fast compared to anything else out there. If you enable all the editing features, and most of your photos only require light editing, it works. Just scrolling from photo to photo is far faster.


Apple Photos as a library and the ability to share with friends and family and across devices is outstanding. On1, Luminar, Capture One, and Lightroom all fall short here. So I can pull photos into app A, edit, export as (whatever), then import into Photos to share with family and friends, but maintain two libraries of duplicates. Or, I could import Photos in half the time, do most the editing there in a fraction of the time, and round trip “project photos” as needed to whatever application is needed for heavy lifting while maintaining the ability to revert to original at my leisure.


So the why is speed and convenience. It just seemed to me to be the kind of obvious technology Apple would leverage.

Feb 12, 2023 10:46 AM in response to v3rlon

It just seemed to me to be the kind of obvious technology Apple would leverage.


If they had any interest in Photography they might. While I'm pretty sure they have interest in people taking snaps with their phones and using the Cloud service to share them across their Apple devices, I'm not sure they have any interest beyond that.


That's a top-of-the-range camera you have, and frankly, Apple make Photos for folks shooting with iPhones and iPads to share easily. Just because Photos will decode the lossless raws doesn’t mean Apple have any interest in anything else the z9 does. They offer the bare minimum. They expect folks with expensive cameras to use 3rd party apps. They won't say that, of course, but actions (or in this case inactions) speak loudest.


I wouldn't regard Luminar as a serious app, but I do know that On1 and Lightroom (both versions) offer good sharing options, though you may need to read the help in either case. As a direct competitor to Photos, the Cloud version of Lightroom is well worth checking out, as is a nice clever app like Mylio.


I say this as, frankly, I do not honestly believe anything will change with Apple's support for your camera in Photos.

Feb 12, 2023 10:57 AM in response to Yer_Man

I will look at Mylio. I am always interested in a better way.


I really don’t get all the Photos hate, though. Photographers are always saying “this is practically right out of the camera. Maybe I tweaked the contrast and saturation a bit.” Photos will do that just fine, and it will do it much faster than any app you can name.


I will revisit sharing options I suppose.


Luminar has some interesting features, and, like Photos, offers a lot under the hood when you quit living with the presets.

Feb 12, 2023 11:41 AM in response to v3rlon

What hate? It's being realistic. Photos is very good at what it does, and what it does is very much aimed at supporting Apple's efforts to sell devices and services. It's the same with all the Apple consumer apps. They're limited by design - think of Pages: perfectly fine if you want to do a flyer or newsletter, or simple letter. Want to do more? Then you'll have a much better experience with apps like InDesign or Word. That way Apple can have something for the home user that still leaves room for 3rd party developers. Similarly with Photos. It does what it does, and does it at the right price point for what it does. But there is still room for 3rd party specialist developers aimed at the Pro / serious hobbyist shooter. So, you have Adobe, CaptureOne, On1, DxO at the top end of the market, Mylio somewhere in the middle, and at the less demanding end: Photos and perhaps the Google service, also free. That's how you have a healthy ecosystem around the Mac.

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