Cannot Downgrade to Monterey from Ventura

I have the 2022 Macbook Air with 2TB HD and 24G RAM.


I need to return to the old OS. I am in a photo printing workshop next week and due to changes in the OS printing structure and lack of print drivers, my machine is nearly useless for the kind of professional printing I need to be doing across many different professional printers.


I downloaded Monterey from the App store and made an installer disk on an external SSD. I erased settings but when I get to the install portion after rebooting, the MacintoshHD says "cannot be downgraded".


Have I not fully erased the disk? Does that matter? Is there a separate partition that the Mac Installer is viewing and saying "NO" or did I miss something else? And if there is something else can I install Ventura again and then catch up? I did turn off things like Find My app and signed out of iCloud, etc. And yes my data is backed up. (This is a limited use machine - currently extremely limited...LOL)


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Chris

MacBook Air (M2)

Posted on Jan 29, 2023 02:04 PM

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Jan 30, 2023 08:18 AM in response to Barney-15E

That's a great point Barney. Thank you. Mine shipped last August with Monterey. Attached is a current snapshot of the Disk Utility - and I had to create a new volume which I called Monterey. The original "Macintosh HD" which I will loosely call "Volume" - it shows up in Disk Utility. The original volume shows Ventura (13.1) from my upgrade activity I did. There also appeared to be another uniquely named volume (not showing now) that was about 1.8G presumably with an image. I had an option to erase that image but was nervous to do it, so i created a volume "Monterey". All would be fine BUT "Monterey" does not show up in Finder. And to get to the Library and other places via Finder I have to click MacintoshHD and then select "show in enclosing folder" to find the real OS folders.


My question is - can I make this always show up in Finder (and the options to do that do not work or don't exist when I right click) - OR do I need to reset again, use Disk Utility to try to wipe everything (and I need better instructions) to move this one forward.


Not sure what the long term impact is of my choice.

Jan 30, 2023 09:27 AM in response to Barney-15E

This is not my primary machine. I moved files off to external drives and/or iCloud.


I didn't look clearly at the drive utility until after I started the reset process.


Bottom line is - 1) How can I get the Monterey volume to show up in Finder 2) how should I / could I format or erase all partitions to truly start from scratch? Perhaps I need to go read more about the disk utility functions, etc - and then remove all partitions and let the Monterey Installer set it up. However - stuck somewhere on the drive / volume was the imprint of OS13.1 which told the installer process "no downgrade of this partition / volume / drive" (using those three terms loosely again).


Many thanks.


Chris 

Feb 13, 2023 08:57 AM in response to DinoFaReal

My work around was this. I noticed that the hard drive volume labeled MacintoshHD was tied to os13. I created a new volume / partition that I named MontereyHD. That new volume then was the target for my OS install from the downloaded Monterey image. It worked for me. I was at the Genius Bar two weeks ago and I showed it to the guy they brought from the back room and he said that is fine. You will appear to have two drives - and I had to make sure MontereyHD was visible in Finder. I hope this helps you.

Feb 13, 2023 12:54 AM in response to Chris351

I stupidly updated my M1 Mac mini to Ventura. I have it connected to a Slate Raven Dual MTi2 console (basically 2 large touch screen monitors fixed in a desk) and it will only recognize 1 monitor as a touch screen. So I tried to restore my Monterey backup from a Time Machine backup I did....just before updating...but it did not work. I have tried everything I could find on Youtube & Apple's support site but it will not let me install Monterey on the MacHD drive (downloaded Monterey, created bootable disk on external SSD). My Raven uses a driver called UPDD and in order to get the monitors to "somewhat" work I have to reinstall the driver after each system reboot.


Bottom line is, I can not seem to revert back to Monterey OS and it's driving me insane! I just want it to go back to working smoothly like it used to because Ventura is glitchy, apps hardly work (neither does my touch screen) and it doesn't even remember the placement of windows like Safari like Monterey (if I open Safai on screen 2 and close it, it now opens back up on screen 1.....simply annoying!!!)

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