MacBook Pro 15 inch (2018) - FAULTY MODEL

Dear Apple,


I bought my laptop on August 2018, a highly specced MacBook Pro 15 inch with touch id (one of Apple’s most expensive and professional products at the time). At the end of the following year (2019), my laptop unexpectedly stopped working and on March 2020, I had logic board and top case replacement covered by Apple care. Even after insisting, Apple did not provide a reason for my laptop suddenly breaking down, apple technicians just said “unfortunately, these things can happen for no reason”. Exactly 1 year later, on March 2021, to my surprise, my laptop stopped working again. At this point, I already started questioning Apple whether I had purchased a faulty unit, and I asked for a total replacement. I was now worried because my Apple care would soon expire, and I wouldn’t be able to easily resolve any issues regarding my logic board. Apple technicians told me over the phone, that if I did have the same issue, where my logic board just suddenly stops working for no reason, Apple would solve this issue, even if the Apple care had expired. Apple did not approve my request for a total replacement, and so, once again, my logic board was replaced. Less than a year later, on February 2022, I started experiencing major battery and keyboard issues, and Apple made yet another repair, replacing my topcase and battery. 2 months later, I started experiencing battery and keyboard issues and Apple issued another replacement (apparently, there was a recall regarding the topcase of my laptop model). Now, January 2023, 8 months since my last major repair, my laptop does not charge or turn on, and after taking it to the Apple Store, I was told the only available solution was to pay £600 for a logic board replacement, since my Apple care had expired. I called Apple customer service, explained all the repairs that I had done over the last 4 years, but they still told me that I would have to pay for the repair. I have had 5 major issues with this laptop during 4 years of ownership, all of which happened for unknown reasons. I was obviously sold a faulty product or laptop model, and Apple refuses to recognise this. It is an absurd that Apple expects a customer, who went through all these issues due to a faulty model, to now pay £600 for a recurring issue, that is bound to happen again.

MacBook Pro 15″, macOS 10.14

Posted on Jan 16, 2023 8:00 AM

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Jan 16, 2023 8:35 AM in response to MacBook_Pro_15_2019

MacBook_Pro_15_2019 wrote:

Dear Apple,

I bought my laptop on August 2018, a highly specced MacBook Pro 15 inch with touch id (one of Apple’s most expensive and professional products at the time).

At the end of the following year (2019), my laptop unexpectedly stopped working and on March 2020, I had logic board and top case replacement covered by Apple care. Even after insisting, Apple did not provide a reason for my laptop suddenly breaking down, apple technicians just said “unfortunately, these things can happen for no reason”.

Exactly 1 year later, on March 2021, to my surprise, my laptop stopped working again. At this point, I already started questioning Apple whether I had purchased a faulty unit, and I asked for a total replacement. I was now worried because my Apple care would soon expire, and I wouldn’t be able to easily resolve any issues regarding my logic board. Apple technicians told me over the phone, that if I did have the same issue, where my logic board just suddenly stops working for no reason, Apple would solve this issue, even if the Apple care had expired.

Apple did not approve my request for a total replacement, and so, once again, my logic board was replaced. Less than a year later, on February 2022, I started experiencing major battery and keyboard issues, and Apple made yet another repair, replacing my topcase and battery.

2 months later, I started experiencing battery and keyboard issues and Apple issued another replacement (apparently, there was a recall regarding the topcase of my laptop model).

Now, January 2023, 8 months since my last major repair, my laptop does not charge or turn on, and after taking it to the Apple Store, I was told the only available solution was to pay £600 for a logic board replacement, since my Apple care had expired.

I called Apple customer service, explained all the repairs that I had done over the last 4 years, but they still told me that I would have to pay for the repair.

I have had 5 major issues with this laptop during 4 years of ownership, all of which happened for unknown reasons. I was obviously sold a faulty product or laptop model, and Apple refuses to recognise this. It is an absurd that Apple expects a customer, who went through all these issues due to a faulty model, to now pay £600 for a recurring issue, that is bound to happen again.



Well, there is no "Dear Apple" here,

this is a user to user support community so your soliloquise falls short.



If it where me I would sell it, and get a different computer.

Personally I avoided 2016-2018 MBP for all the various reasons.



I see no question here.. you can submit your Apple Feedback here: Product Feedback - Apple


Contact the corporate office Contact - How to Contact Us - Apple




Jan 16, 2023 9:34 AM in response to MacBook_Pro_15_2019

MacBook_Pro_15_2019 wrote:

You got it wrong, its under 4 and a half years. And what you fail to notice is that a computer should not break down once every year… this makes no sense. Apple ‘fixing’ my laptop was the bare minimum. Apple should recognise that the 2018 MBP series is faulty, and should have them replaced.


Well unfortunate for you yes; if it was a "faulty series" we would already see an extended Service Program

however there has been none issued...


What I can say is—Service Programs are triggered by the  percentage of all MBP of this spec vs the number of failures documented. We are not privy to this %, or have any more insight. Full stop.



Definitely sound like you have a lemon, if not coupled with bad luck as mentioned.

My best advise remains—Get out from under it and move on



ref: see vintage and obsolete:

Obtaining service for your Apple product after an expired warranty - Apple Support


Jan 16, 2023 8:26 AM in response to MacBook_Pro_15_2019

<< I was obviously sold a faulty product or laptop model, >>


nonsense.


Electro-mechanical devices fail at random, arbitrary, and captious times. 

The most frequent reason for most failures is 'just because'.

Your specific failure is most likely caused by an advanced scientific principle called ...

... 'bad luck'.


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If you want a really substantial lesson how this this works (or more precisely how this stops working) own a used automobile.

Jan 16, 2023 8:31 AM in response to Grant Bennet-Alder

Like I said, my laptop was not “used”, it was brand new. I have owned literally dozens of apple products, as well as devices from other brands, nothing like this has ever happened.


I would accept “bad luck” as an answer if the issue had occurred once, or maybe even twice. But 5 times!! That is not bad luck, that is a faulty model - and this is the opinion por favor thousands of other customers who bought the same model.

Jan 16, 2023 9:19 AM in response to MacBook_Pro_15_2019

You said four of the five times Apple repaired it for free.


Only one instance of failure that you needed to pay for, on a computer that is nearly six years old.


In my opinion, you are not so bad off, and your one unrepaired-for-free failure could be attributed to 'Bad luck'.


as leroydouglas has pointed out, Readers here are NOT Apple employees, they are other users like you. Apple employees have already told your expectations are not realistic, and now other users have told you that as well.

Jan 16, 2023 9:25 AM in response to Grant Bennet-Alder

The end result was: I bought one of apple’s most expensive and professional laptops and it kept breaking down, despite a normal use. The fact that it broke down 5 times for no reason (4 times within the apple care) makes it clear, at least in my opinion, that this is a faulty device/model. And this is indeed the opinion of thousands of customers who bought this laptop and technicians.

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