Time Machine will no longer support Time Capsule formatted with AFP Apple Filing Protocol

Annoyedmacuser196 wrote:

Please be advised that this human being will no longer support the apple corporation and its shareholders- I won’t be updating my OS and will continue to use time capsule and after decades of using these products my next computer will be a PC

You should always buy what you want.

We don't care what you buy.

Re: “Please be advised that this human being will no longer support the apple corporation and its shareholders”

And this matters to your fellow users how? Enjoy the Windows world, where Microsoft cut off a lot of PCs that could run Windows 10 from getting a Windows 11 upgrade simply because those PCs did not have a “Trusted Program Module.”

Before investing in a NAS, would a LAN-to-USB device exist for which, if connected to a router/switch, the USB would support SMB v3, so a backup HDD would work with Time Machine?

If yes, this would solve, at least temporarily, my Time Machine wireless backup situation - i.e. Mac -> Wi-Fi AP -> Router/Switch -> LAN-to-USB -> HDD - after I decommission the Time Capsule.

Re no more backup to Time Capsule over network; this is disappointing because it worked well. We move on. I have an ASUS AX6600 XT8 mesh Router system. Can you please tell me how to connect an external hard drive to that and then back up my MBP automatically to that hard Drive. Thanks Bill.

Bill3Apple wrote:

Re no more backup to Time Capsule over network; this is disappointing because it worked well. We move on. I have an ASUS AX6600 XT8 mesh Router system. Can you please tell me how to connect an external hard drive to that and then back up my MBP automatically to that hard Drive. Thanks Bill.

That ASUS ZenWiFi AX (XT8) AX6600 Tri-band Mesh WiFi 6 System does not list Time Machine server capabilities in the tech specs:

https://www.asus.com/microsite/better-WiFi-for-SMB/ASUS-ZenWiFi-XT8_datasheet.pdf

Unfortunately for this reply, ASC is eating links again, and has basically clobbered this reply. You will want to do some searches of the Asus website for Time Machine support info, for Wi-Fi and Asustor. I’ve attempted to re-generate the text.

• Related info {garbled links removed}
• https://www.asus.com/support/faq/1011283/
• https://www.asus.com/us/support/faq/1011283/
• https://www.asustor.com/admv2?type=2&subject=4&sub=18

There have been reports of issues, as well:

• https://www.reddit.com/r/ASUS/comments/13gihgw/is_anyone_successfully_using_asus_router_time/

For alternative Wi-Fi mesh router hardware suggestions, see previous replies.

If you wish to preserve that Wi-Fi mesh router, you’ll likely be installing a NAS box. See previous replies.

You’ll be able to continue to operate with Time Capsule until you upgrade to macOS 26.

Unfortunately, your ASUS router's USB port will not support a hard drive that is formatted in the APFS format that Time Machine will want to use with future Mac operating systems, so most likely a no go on that idea.

Think NAS with Time Machine support.

We'll know more when the next Mac operating system is introduced. Too many unknowns at this time.

Thanks MrHoffman! I stand corrected.

You are too kind. That was not a typo, but a blind spot.

I missed the distinction between SMB 3.0 and Samba, and your additional linked information was very helpful for me (and other Readers) to see the distinction.

Using your example, I pulled up the Wikipedia article on AFP.

WOW, what remarkable word-salad including AppleTalk, Apple File Protocol. Apple File System and acronyms and similar terms. No wonder there is some confusion.

I've had a Wifi 5 time capsule for a few years now that I used for file sharing. About a month ago I upgraded it from a 2tb drive to a 6tb WD Red for my time machine backups, but now I can't do that?? Sad :(

Replacing Time Capsule and Synology backup devices. Your helpful comments solicited.

My 20 + year old Synology DS212 NAS drive died this week and my old AFP Time Capsule is headed to the junkyard soon we learned recently. This thread seems to have conflicting info on whether backup devices can be on a home network or have to be attached to a Mac?

I will soon be replacing my 2019 (Intel) iMac and would like to use its drive for one on site backup source over our Ethernet home network. Any reason why this cannot be accomplished? Or are those older iMac drives formatted in one of the Time Machine forbidden formats like the Time Capsule? I would ideally like to replace the Synology drive with something a little less complicated to manage and have that be my second on site backup device running over the home network or attached directly to the Mac.

Appreciate any input, education and suggestions!

Edit......That would work and allow Time Machine to keep backing up to the Time Capsule.

Should have said "should work"......because I have not yet tested this, but I would expect it to work.

Would the Ubiquiti UNAS Pro NAS support SMB v3 and Time Machine?

https://store.ui.com/us/en/category/all-integrations/products/unas-pro

https://help.ui.com/hc/en-us/articles/17299776030999-macOS-Time-Machine-Backups-on-UNAS

Servant of Cats wrote:

It looks as though Time Machine can now do network backups using the (Windows) SMB file sharing protocol.

That’s been the case for a while now. (Apparently since 10.15, if not earlier.).

Apple decided SMB had won, and started retiring AFP.

And here we are.

Although the Time Capsule supports SMB v1, I suspect that will not be good enough to allow continued Time Machine use once Apple pulls the plug on the deprecated Apple Filing Protocol. You would need a newer NAS, running a current version of SMB, that supports the current version of Time Machine.

SMBv1 is best gone everywhere, given its security vulnerabilities.

https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/blog/filecab/stop-using-smb1/425858

Ned Pyle, formerly a Microsoft Principal Program Manager for various Windows-related functions including SMB, spent a chunk of his Microsoft career working to end SMBv1, due to its flaws. SMBv1 is bad.