2020 27-inch iMac continuously shuts down and restarts

I have a 27-inch 2020 iMac, and the MacOS is Sequoia 15.5. It is currently using 217.68 GB of 499.96 GB on the hard drive. 115.68 GB of that is "system data." 282.25 GB is available space. I have 40 GB of memory, the extra 32 GB of which was installed in 2020 at the time of purchase, purchased as recommended by the folks at Apple at the time. My iMac had a few issues shutting down a few years ago, but tech support helped mostly resolve those issues.


The usual native Apple apps are installed along with the usual apps for saving and reading documents (Adobe pdf reader, Instapaper, MS Office Suite (installed long ago), Kindle, but nothing weird or more niche. Applications take up 26.47 GB of the hard drive space.


Now, recently (within the last few months), my Mac has been randomly shutting down, sometimes restarting, in the middle of a project. I am a lawyer and I create lots of Word documents for work. I frequently have a legal research site open and I cut and paste text from the research site to my Word document or to an email message in Outlook. I have stopped using my iMac for this because of the frequent shutdowns--it is a total pain to lose work and have to re-do things, I try to save often, but invariably I lose some amount of work. I do most of my work on a work-assigned laptop, but for intensive reading I use my iMac because the large screen size makes it so much easier to read dense legal texts and to draft documents. Other than that, my usage is not intensive: attending or creating Zoom meetings, email, social media, photos, reading magazine articles, watching presentations and interviews on YouTube, etc. Most of my documents are stored on an external hard drive.


As a result, I have recently run Malwarebytes and CleanMyMac for both cleanup and virus scanning. Neither finds any issues and both have eliminated some unnecessary junk, but the shutdown/re-start continues to happen. I have also moved any remaining documents from my Macintosh HD to my external hard drive. I have restarted, cleaned, restarted, shut down, restarted, but the random shutdowns continue, sometimes in fairly rapid succession as I am trying to restart. I have reported all error messages to Apple when that prompt pops up.


I have read other similar threads, all more than two years old, and have found nothing more recent that discusses my issue. I am really hoping I don't need to replace my Mac. Except for this random-shutdown issue, it has served me well.


I would appreciate any advice.


LKH


iMac 27″, macOS 15.5

Posted on Jun 17, 2025 8:10 AM

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Aug 6, 2025 10:54 AM in response to lkh916

What non Apple software did they get after you for? I use more non-Apple software that Apple software in my day-to-day operation.


You never want to install and run any "cleaning", "optimizing", "speed-up", anti-virus or VPN apps on your Mac. They are unneeded and can compromise system performance or worse.


But productivity apps like MS Office, Adobe Photoshop and Photoshop Elements, LibreOffice, Audacity, File Maker Pro, Keyboard Maestro, etc., etc. are fine.


Jun 17, 2025 9:39 AM in response to lkh916

Get rid of bitdefender. It is also garbage on a Mac.

There are no known viruses in the wild that can infect macOS.

Malwarebytes isn't harmful, but it serves very little purpose if you have not disabled Apple's build in protections.


Get rid of the VPNs. They serve absolutely no legitimate purpose. They do nothing to protect your privacy or secure your data.

Exactly the opposite.





Aug 11, 2025 5:14 PM in response to Allan Jones

Thank you very much. My iMac is on a large, flat surface, about 6-8 inches away from the wall. There is nothing directly under or over it. There is plenty of airflow from all sides.




My desk is messier today than normal, but none of the papers, etc., are near the iMac. The black cord under the iMac is the cord to attach my external hard drive. Only other plug in back other than power cord is the ethernet connection.



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Jun 17, 2025 10:38 AM in response to KiltedTim

OK, will do. Bitdefender and some of the VPNs came as a package with other programs. I think bitdefender and malwarebytes were both related to either my AT&T account that includes these things or my Orbi mesh wifi system, which includes Active Armour or something similar, part of which filters out spam calls to my iPhone. The Proton VPN is part of the paid email family plan. I don't use them, and I don't knowingly use them at home--they are just there for the most part. In case it matters, none of these were newly installed (although every new OS update makes everything appear newly installed--I get alerts that I'm signing in to various things from a new computer. It's not new, its just had its OS updated).


I'll try to uninstall the items that can be separately uninstalled.


Bitdefender does not appear in my apps list.


Proton VPN is part of the proton suite.


I uninstalled malwarebytes.


Need to find all the other items.


Thanks!

Aug 11, 2025 4:31 PM in response to Old Toad

@ Old Toad, I followed your instructions. I downloaded Find Any File and ran it. I was able to delete some, but not all the files. I connected my keyboard and started in Safe Mode, and confirmed that I was in fact in safe mode. I ran Find Any File again and tried to delete, but got the same messages. I took screenshots of the messages, which are below.


The first popup said "Some items are locked or require root permissions. Do you want to they to trash these items as well?" See the screenshot below. I selected RETRY and received the second popup, which said "Clean My Mac couldn't be moved to the trash because you don't have permission to access it."


There are still files that include one or more of the terms I searched for (the three you listed) and I am unable to delete them after following the instructions.


Any instructions for how I should proceed now?


Thanks a million.



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Jun 18, 2025 2:51 PM in response to lkh916

Sending from my phone.


I haven’t yet posted a new report. I’ve been fighting with my computer all morning. Keeps shutting down during the login process. As soon as I am able to login and run a new report I will post it. This is very frustrating. I was able to look back at old apple emails and see this was exactly the same issue I had a couple years ago. An online tech reset everything and it has mostly worked since then, until relatively recently.

Jun 18, 2025 11:05 PM in response to rkaufmann87

One more updated report. I ran Find Any File again, first in regular mode and also in safe mode. There were still files that I could not remove--the pop-up said I do not have access to remove numerous items. This was in both regular and safe mode. I was ultimately able to remove the previously listed (on previous report) problematic files related to Proton VPN. I was unable to remove numerous other files that included VPN in the name.


It appears that I was able to successfully remove the cleanmymac, macpaw, and bitdefender files.


FYI, for the unsigned files, anything that includes the name LaCie is related to my external hard drive.


For the kernel panics and crashes, although I was able to uninstall/delete several items, I was not able to delete all. The restarts and crashes continue, and at least for today, I had to reboot 3-5 times in a row before the computer would stay on without restarting immediately. So, the issue is not yet resolved, but it seems there has been a small bit of improvement.


Thanks!


Jun 20, 2025 1:05 PM in response to lkh916

I spent all day yesterday online with Apple tech support. After many tries, we were ultimately able to erase the hard disk, run all the first aid functions, and reinstall the Mac OS. Took several tries to get Catalina installed (numerous restarts in the middle among other issues), and then took several tries to get Sequoia installed (again restarts). I did not restore it from a backup--I am adding only necessary things manually. I am still experiencing restarts, but not with the same frequency as before. After an initial restart when I first logged on for the day today, it has not done it again. Yet.


I appreciate all your input, although the tone of a couple messages was somewhat off-putting.


I will say I think it would be good if Apple would tell people right up front when purchasing a computer not to install any of the kinds of programs that you all agree were the likely problems here. I have bought several Apple computers over the years, and have never received this information before posting here. If I had, I would not have allowed any of these products to be installed in the first place. The mainstream news ecosystem warns the general public that they need to take precautions for viruses, security, and privacy, and the media don't distinguish between Apple products and others. The opinions you all shared here don't make their way to the general population as far as I can see. Based on the number of threads here just like mine, asking for help with the same problem, most people are unaware of this information. I read many of these threads before deciding to post here.


Anyway, thanks.

Aug 5, 2025 6:05 AM in response to Barney-15E

Well, because all the experts here chided me multiple times in many different ways for installing any non-Apple software. They didn’t distinguish. I am a regular, non-technical user and have absolutely no idea what does or does not have kernel extensions, whatever those are, or how to determine whether any app or software has such kernel extensions. The tech support people on the phone never brought up that subject and I would not have known to ask.



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