Can a healthy but very old MBP (5,5) with 10.6 OS be configured to operate on a Mesh wifi network?

I was given the subject MBP by an old friend who is forced to liquidate his gear and enter an elder care facility. I'm wondering if this device could be dusted off and put to some good use in his new place, but I can't get it to network via my home wifi. So, no email or other network-dependent functionality.


There seems to be an issue with WEP vs. WPA security, an area that I have no working knowledge of. Could anyone give me guidance on this. My network is WPA2, and the old Airport card in the MBP seems to prefer WEP, as I read the problem via the computer's network diagnostics. Is this a fatal incompatibility? I have no idea what the wifi characteristics will be at his new place, but anticipate that if I can't make it work here, it won't work there.


Thanks.




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Posted on Mar 21, 2025 9:01 PM

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Posted on Mar 22, 2025 12:11 PM

To augment the other replies, no one likes to keep Macs in service more than I do, and in fact I have an iMac a litte older than that MBP. I'm using it now. It runs El Capitan, and is as fast as it's ever been.


However... its version of Safari is just too old to cope with most websites. So, on this Mac I use use Firefox almost exclusively since it is much newer than Safari for El Cap, and still works with every website I can think of:


But then it gets worse. Mozilla recently stopped supporting those older OS X versions, so it has already arrived at a dead end.


Even worse. Its version of Mail stopped being able to communicate with Microsoft Exchange email servers a long time ago. Even iCloud Mail stopped functioning as recently as a few weeks ago. That leaves very few options for using Mail, and I'm not even certain I can suggest any.


Summary: No, there are no fatal show-stoppers, but in my opinion it's just not worth trying to squeeze any more life out of that Mac. Yes you can make it work, but your old friend is almost certain to encounter many frustrations that will only get worse.


Options: You can buy a recently manufactured certified refurbished MacBook Air from Apple for considerably less than $700: https://www.apple.com/shop/refurbished/mac/imac-macbook-air


I'd seriously consider that.

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Mar 22, 2025 12:11 PM in response to Jerrold Green1

To augment the other replies, no one likes to keep Macs in service more than I do, and in fact I have an iMac a litte older than that MBP. I'm using it now. It runs El Capitan, and is as fast as it's ever been.


However... its version of Safari is just too old to cope with most websites. So, on this Mac I use use Firefox almost exclusively since it is much newer than Safari for El Cap, and still works with every website I can think of:


But then it gets worse. Mozilla recently stopped supporting those older OS X versions, so it has already arrived at a dead end.


Even worse. Its version of Mail stopped being able to communicate with Microsoft Exchange email servers a long time ago. Even iCloud Mail stopped functioning as recently as a few weeks ago. That leaves very few options for using Mail, and I'm not even certain I can suggest any.


Summary: No, there are no fatal show-stoppers, but in my opinion it's just not worth trying to squeeze any more life out of that Mac. Yes you can make it work, but your old friend is almost certain to encounter many frustrations that will only get worse.


Options: You can buy a recently manufactured certified refurbished MacBook Air from Apple for considerably less than $700: https://www.apple.com/shop/refurbished/mac/imac-macbook-air


I'd seriously consider that.

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Mar 23, 2025 7:25 AM in response to Jerrold Green1

if your MacOS is working, another way to proceed is you CAN use this article (fight your way through "this is not secure, bla, bla, bla") and get to the "Use a browser" direct download link for 10.11 El Capitan, which does not require an encrypted connection.


How to download and install macOS - Apple Support


Once downloaded, when you click through everything, a dmg provides a pkg, which will eventually PLACE the "Install macOS..." in the Applications folder, READY to be installed. The actual installation is a separate operation.



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Mar 22, 2025 8:14 AM in response to Jerrold Green1

A MacBook Pro5,5 can connect to WPA2 secured networks, even running 10.6. But you say you have a home mesh network - are you sure it isn't using WPA3 security? 10.6 cannot connect to a WPA3 network (but if you can upgrade to 10.11 El Capitan as Grant Bennet-Alder suggests, then you can because 10.11 can properly fall back to WPA2 on a WPA3 network).


When you go to join a network, you should get a dialog like this (except the name of the network will be filled in):



When you click on the Security selector, you should get a drop-down menu like this:



Do you get this and can you select WPA2 Personal?


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Mar 23, 2025 10:46 AM in response to Jerrold Green1

from there, you click on the lock, examine the certificate, and say "connect anyway"


but what you already know is that it can "Go Fishing" on the internet, and CAN discover stuff (it knows the site asked for a httpS: connection) but may not yet have adequate DNS numbers entered:



the numbers showing are OpenDNS, which are free to use and VERY reliable.

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Mar 22, 2025 7:33 AM in response to Jerrold Green1

that appears to be a 2009 model with a built-in Ethernet port. It accepts up to 8GB of RAM and is capable of running up to MacOS 10.11 El Capitan. You can arm-wave the Wi-Fi issues by plugging in an Ethernet cable to any one of your many access points.


If it has a working MacOS, DO NOT Erase it unless/until you have another way of installing MacOS -- That computer does NOT have Recovery tools in its ROM.


it should be upgraded to MacOS 10.11 El Capitan to be able to see any modern web sites, and we can talk about how to do that.


What is the EXACT status showing in System Preferences > Networks > Wi-FI ?


In 2015, researchers discovered that Secure Socket Layer (SSL) Internet encryption was not nearly as secure as was thought, and needed to be replaced. Internet encryption quickly moved to Transport Layer Security (TLS) which was rapidly deployed across the Internet. Over time, sites tightened requirements for what was acceptable for encryption.


Apple issued Safari version 9 in 10.11 El Capitan version of MacOS, which included TLS encryption. It was later provided by Security Update into the two previous versions of MacOS. 10.10 Yosemite and 10.9 Mavericks, PROVIDED you applied all available software updates.


MacOS versions older than those can not make a lot of secure [httpS:] connections on the Internet, because by todays standards, your proffered SSL encryption is considered inadequate.


that Mac:

https://everymac.com/systems/apple/macbook_pro/specs/macbook-pro-core-2-duo-2.26-aluminum-13-mid-2009-sd-firewire-800-unibody-specs.html

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Mar 23, 2025 6:49 AM in response to Jerrold Green1

I've installed 10.6 on a MacBook Pro4,1 and connected it to an eero mesh (but had to downgrade the eero security to WPA2, from WPA3, in the eero App under Network Settings by turning WPA3 off). Did it within the past 3 months, so it should be possible.


Get on the Internet through ethernet if you can, get Firefox and then update the OS to El Capitan. You may have to do this through the Terminal, running the following multiple times:

sudo softwareupdate -ia

Terminal is likely required because the App Store won't connect properly. Running sudo (super user do) will also require that you enter your password.


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Mar 23, 2025 7:18 AM in response to Jerrold Green1

<< AirPort is Connected. >>


then the issue is NOT WP-anything -- you CAN Connect if its shows connected.


the most frequent problem once 'connected' is Domain Name Server address (DNS).

Launch a browser and enter this easy to remember all-numeric IP address:


1.1.1.1 


in the address bar,  and press return.


If you get the CloudFlare** splash page, your internet is working, but DNS lookup may not be working.


**CloudFlare is NOT part of the solution, they just own the easiest to remember all-numeric IP Address.


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Mar 23, 2025 12:04 PM in response to Jerrold Green1

I think this is a probelm particular to Mac OS X and Safari with expired root certificates. You could try this:

Navigate to Let's Encrypt: https://letsencrypt.org/certificates/


Under ISRG Root X1, click the link that says "pem" after Certificate details (self-signed), to download that format root certificate.


Double-click the downloaded file to load it into KeyChain.


Or, you could try Firefox 45 ESR: https://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/firefox/releases/45.9.0esr/mac/en-US/Firefox%2045.9.0esr.dmg. which might still work enough to get you in a position to update.

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Mar 23, 2025 3:34 PM in response to Jerrold Green1

Your error message already told you that you ARE on the internet, and trying to access httpS: web sites.


Unless/until you fix certificate's,-OR- click on the lock, view the certificate, and tell it to 'connect anyway', adding DNS numbers is not expected to change 1.1.1.1 lookup.


but what it will do is allow other lookups that do NOT require httpS:


this is one I can remember:


time.is


it does not require a valid certificate. Just type that string into the search bar and it surfs (after a DNS lookup) to a web site that will tell you whether your system time is accurate. if your DNS is working, you will get there regardless of certificates.



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Mar 22, 2025 5:27 PM in response to Grant Bennet-Alder

Grant - Thanks for taking the time to reply and dig up the link to the everyman article.


Your first paragraph's ethernet cable suggestion is the direction I had decided to go in while I was awaiting replies. I have a wifi extender with ethernet cable port in order to give that route a try.


Yes, I understand that getting a connection to the internet is the key to any efforts. I have know of no way to upgrade the operating system if I can't connect to Apple's servers, and no reason to delete the current OS prior to that. Oddly, clicking on Software Update in "About this Mac" can be misleading because I would think that would reveal connection problems, but it just comes back with "Your software is up to date."


In System Preferences, Network, I see that AirPort is Connected, and it shows an IP address. Clicking Advanced gives me tabs to all the TCP/IP, DNS, WINS, 802.1x, Proxies and Ethernet settings pages. It's a lot to repeat here, but it that would help, I will do my best. If you could narrow it down a bit that would help.


Yours and the other two responses I have at this time are very helpful and respectful in that I value your opinion and I know this is a long shot, and you're not chiding me for trying. I don't need this computer, and I'm not sure my friend does, but my friend is attached to it. Odd considering how little use it got. 88 battery cycles and still showing good battery health.


I will report back if I have any luck with an ethernet connection. And, I will relay any additional settings info you can point me to.


Thanks,


Jerry


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Mar 22, 2025 5:39 PM in response to g_wolfman

G_,


Thanks for your reply. With this computer's OS, the "Find and Join a WiFi network" dialog doesn't include a Security Selector line. I select my EERO network's name and fill in the password, and it shows a connection, but there is no internet connectivity on this computer. All my other devices do have internet conveyed by this network.


In another dialog, which I can't really recall how I got to, I'm told that I have no internet connection and that I have the incorrect security. This is where I'm really out of my depth.


As I responded to Grant, I'll give an ethernet cable a try, and if that works I'll attempt a software upgrade.


Best,


Jerry

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Mar 22, 2025 5:46 PM in response to John Galt

John,


I guess a functional but unsupported Firefox is better than nothing, assuming I can still get a download. Thanks for your suggestion of a reconditioned MB Air.


I told my friend this is a long shot, and that I would give it a good try.


Thanks for your reply,


Jerry

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Mar 23, 2025 9:37 AM in response to Grant Bennet-Alder

To Grant and g_w,


Helpful information from you both. I really appreciate the suggestions, and will try to work my way through them. Worst case is that I come out knowing more than when I went in. I'll post back as soon as I have the results with ethernet connected, and have run the DNS test.


Greatful for all the help,


Jerry

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Mar 23, 2025 7:27 PM in response to Grant Bennet-Alder

Grant,


Thanks for the additional tips. I'll stew on all of this for a while, and continue to work toward being able to test with an ethernet connection. I'll be back, either with more questions, or to let you know that I've set the project aside, or maybe a report of success.


Appreciate all the expertise.


Jerry

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