Velocity curves to match feel of a Yamaha KX-88 paired with Roland Sound Canvas SC-33 sampled pianos

I'm pretty old and I love my KX-88. A couple of times back in the 80's when I lived in the mid south, I made a few trips to a piano importer show room in Little Rock, Arkansas. For a while they kept a Fazioli grand on the floor and customers were allowed to play it. At the time those could be purchased for about $80K. I could never afford to buy one, but they had quite a few expensive grand pianos, and when I played the Fazioli, it felt just like the KX-88 controlling the piano samples of our band's Roland midi module (at that time a forerunner of the general midi SC-33). I still have a KX-88 which has had a fairly shielded existence, so it works well. With Logic Pro on my M1 MacBook Pro, I can reduce latency so that the new piano sounds feel somewhat realistic. But the velocity settings aren't quite what I would like. How can I adjust velocity settings for a software keyboard instrument in Logic Pro 11.1 so that playing it from the KX-88 will feel as close as possible to having the KX-88 paired with a 90s Roland Sound Canvas SC-33? Thanks.



MacBook Pro (M1, 2020)

Posted on Dec 3, 2024 10:04 PM

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Dec 10, 2024 03:42 PM in response to Goxlet

Without knowing KX-88 and Roland Sound Canvas SC-33. There are usually 3 methods to change the velocity curves. At least one of them should be possible to deploy. All methods require reading the manuals or (with Logic) watching some tutorials.

  1. changing the velocity curves in the (input) keyboard
  2. changing the velocity curves in the sound module or software intrument
  3. changing the velocity curves in Logic via Environment > Transformer

Dec 11, 2024 01:30 AM in response to yoyoBen

BTW, here's an example of the issue I have for the way Apple Intelligence works. It tells me "To change the environment in Logic Pro 11.1, go to Logic Pro > Settings > Advanced > Additional MIDI Options". The fact (at least what I'm convinced as the fact) is that Advanced MIDI Options are enabled when you enable Enable Complete Features by ensuring that the check box next to Enable Complete Features has a check mark in it. Then you have to learn what MIDI options became available when you enabled Enable Complete Features. The way the instructions are stated, anyone other than a savvy user would be sent on a wild goose chase for Additional MIDI Options very similar to Homer Simpson's search for the "ANY" key.

Dec 12, 2024 09:43 PM in response to yoyoBen

Unfortunately, the sample blending, although better than in previous versions of the Logic Pro piano, is still not what it should be. Too many chromatically adjacent notes struck at similar velocities sound far too different to compare with dedicated midi sound modules. To illustrate my point, create a new Ballad piano channel, enable all three mics of the Studio piano and set them each to about 80, reduce the pedal noise to 30, the key noise to 35, the release samples to 60 and sympathetic res to 60. Assuming middle C is C4 (Roland rather than Yamaha), play with medium hard velocity (100 of 127) on a touch sensitive keyboard (preferably one that simulates weighted piano keys) a C#5 and then a D5. They sound similar only in the most general way.

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