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Problem with apple support_after sales

Dear community,


Not a technical issue, but a challenge with Apple itself.


I'm facing a big problem with the Aftersales dept of Apple. It's a story running for 4 weeks now and, in a nutshell, my parcel (Iphone 16 PM, ordered via Apple Store online) was stolen by a UPS driver. I've been calling almost each day from the moment it was clear UPS wouldn't deliver the parcel, with Apple support. Each time they claimed that I "should't be worried, will be helped in the best possible way and only needed to have some patience"

I was also told that I would be contacted by concerning departments and " please know it will be a number from Ireland, so please pick up the phone"... never had any contact from their side..

Clearly I cannot reproduce here the whole 3 weeks of phonecalls with Apple and UPS, that would become too much info.

At the and of the day, I will most probably have a new device shipped. Again by UPS and again it will be stolen as for my address it is known now that a replacement will be send.


Bottomline I cannot get in contact with a dept that's able to take honest problems serious and where I can discuss what's the best way to solve this matter. Until now it's just me explaining over and over again the situation while the support person only makes notes in 'the system'


I never thought that I would experience this, but after 16 years being a proud Apple fan (my first iPhone was the 3GS) I feel so disappointed (and angry unfortunately) that I'm about to drop all my Apple gear in the bin and switch to another platform. A feeling I really regret


Anyone in this community knows which dept I could approach by mail?


Thanks in advance, Marcel



iPhone 11, iOS 18

Posted on Oct 12, 2024 12:36 PM

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Oct 13, 2024 9:10 AM in response to marcelvg

Good Morning!


Apple have removed the web links for reporting issue with sales, service, of support. No reason given.


As someone with applicable experience, I'm not a fan of phone calls.


For a decade I managed the customer satisfaction function for a major manufacturer in another business segment. Calle load was 100-300X min the mail load. When email appeared, my successor in that positions needed two extra people to keep up but was only give one. A hot mess I was glad not to manage!


If I had a complaint on either an employee or regarding one of the company's functions or services, I far preferred getting a clearly-written business letter. That was an order of magnitude better than finding a bunch of voicemails or a stack of pink "While you were out..." slips (I'm dating myself!) on my desk in the morning.


The letter gave me time to properly investigate and develop constructive response for the customer. Phone calls, not at all.


Letters, in a way, also become a form of evidence in cases of both praise or complaints:

  • If a stiff-necked section manager said, "My people would never do that!" our conversation became much more productive when I had them read a customer's letter.
  • If a letter regarded an employee, for good of bad, it went in the employee's HR file where it was available at review time.


I'll add this tip based on my spending ten years on the "receiving" end: If using US Mail, letters sent "Certified, Return Receipt Requested" never got lost in the shuffle at our firm!


It seems the art of writing a business letter is no longer being taught. I doubt you need a brush-up but, if you do, this is a pretty good reference: https://edu.gcfglobal.org/en/business-communication/how-to-write-a-formal-business-letter/1/



Oct 12, 2024 12:58 PM in response to marcelvg

There's really no place you can write and get a reply at all, really, much less a timely one. Apple I'm sure gets thousands if not millions of pieces of mail every day, so trying to write them and get useful assistance will almost certainly be futile.


I wish I had a sure answer to give you as to how to proceed. What the issue is nor why you're having such difficulty I can't guess. All any of us here can probably suggest is that you insist on speaking with a supervisor at Apple Store Support, if you have not done so already or already been in touch with an escalated support specialist. The first-level support folks, who are the ones who answer when you first call Support, generally don't have a lot of authority or power to do much of anything beyond their standard remit.


I know that there's at least one other regular Community frequenter who formerly was a manager at an Apple Store and perhaps he'll have some more specific advice as to what you can do.


Regards.

Oct 12, 2024 2:01 PM in response to varjak paw

Many thanks for your reply. Appreciated!


Several calls the, first level, supporters told me they would escalate this case indeed.

Honestly they all friendly enough and I understand they do what's within their reach but at the end nothing happened. I understand that they have to sort things out with UPS, but the lack of communication... horrible

It's a good suggestion to 'force' them to connect me with a supervisor; will try this for sure on Monday.


Never had a more frustrating experience in my life with an online purchase..

And even more never expected this from a brand that always claims to set "user experience" as priority


have a nice weekend :-)

Oct 13, 2024 11:37 PM in response to Allan Jones

Dear Allan,


Thanks a lot for taking the time to respond.

I completely understand your point, honestly a way of communicating that's sad enough no longer top of mind for me. In fact I would love to go back to the years without email and apps haha

I might give it a shot, until now no other means helped me out. Here, i'm located in the Netherlands, on their website even no physical address of an HQ is shown. For an obvious reason I guess..

Bottomline it's really sad to experience that Apple doesn't seem to care about customer satisfaction anymore. Shareholder satisfaction... that's the main goal these days


Thanks again!

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