How to make an Apple id profile for my 5th kid?

Torange8 wrote:

Thank you for your suggestion. I would want restrictions on using FaceTime and Messages for obvious reasons and they are younger than 13.

The age of the Apple ID can be 13 or above and still allow you to set parental restrictions for those items directly on each device through ScreenTime.

You are creating the Apple IDs with the ages above that, so you don't have to add them to Family Sharing. Apple Ids set to an age 12 or younger, will need to be part of family sharing to even be created, but since you already have 5 of them added, you can't add anymore.

But creating them independently just for messages and FaceTime means they don't have to be part of Family Sharing.

I'm not even sure how to add more than one apple id on an iphone or ipad or is that just in the app itself? Or how that would work out, to give one app access to that apple id but not others.

FaceTime and Messages have their own Apple ID option in Settings. Go to Settings ➜ (Apps in iOS 18) ➜ Messages and Settings ➜ (Apps) ➜ FaceTime, and you can log out of the current Apple ID there and log in with the new one.

Again, this is has no relation to the Screen Time Settings directly.

I'm afraid that would get messy and may give them an access point for the device by pass the parent controls.

Again, no, this is separate to Screen Time and Parental controls, it's only for those 2 apps on each child's device, to keep calls and messages separate from each other.

Apple hasn't been fool proof on the apple id settings. I handed down an ipad to my daughter, reassigning the apple id to hers after first clearing my stuff off. And forever this ipad kept getting us confused, my apple id picture would change to hers and hers to mine.

Sounds like you missed some place to log out of the Apple ID, namely iCloud in Settings ➜ Apple ID. That means the device is still tied to your Apple ID and still sync contents to your iCloud account. That's less Apple, and more you doing something wrong when setting up the iPad for your daughter. As mentioned by Mac in a previous reply, the best course of action in that case, is to erase the iPad entirely, so you remove everything that may be tied to you.

It would be messed up in family sharing and on our other devices.

No, if done correctly, Family Sharing should not be affected, since it is handled by the Apple ID signed in to Settings ➜ Apple ID ➜ Media & Purchases.

When I deleted the device from my apple id devices it got bricked. $700 iPad dead as a door nail when it was working perfectly before I removed it.

Not sure what you did then. Removing it from your account should not have caused it to be bricked.

At least our id pictures are not messed up anymore. I'm concerned that messing with two apple ids on one device will be tricky.

Only 2 locations you need to do that in, Messages and FaceTime. Leave everything else as is.

The bigger issue with sharing the apple id has been photos. Photos getting deleted as they somehow got uploaded to the cloud and redownloaded on all devices and then deleted by the other person.

That's going to continue to be an issue as long as Apple IDs for iCloud are shared between different people's devices. The iCloud account in Settings ➜ Apple ID on each device, controls the Photos feature and will merge photos an actions if the apple ID is the same and iCloud Photos is turned on.

You can choose to have a different Apple ID there, but that may mess up certain Family Sharing features that rely on iCloud,.

(I had icloud photos turned off on everyone's devices but it somehow got turned on with an update or something). Now I pay extra for more icloud storage to try to figure that mess out. Though, right now the messages are what's really upsetting my daughter the most now that she is messaging friends. Thank you for the suggestion, I will look further into it.

As mentioned for Messages, you just need to make sure she is signed in to her own Apple ID for Messages.

Everything else, can remain the same. That will make her messages independent of everyone else.

Your option is to create individual Apple IDs for each child (with an age of 13 and older), but only use them for Messages and FaceTime on their devices.

Keep the shared child Apple ID for Media & Purchases and iCloud, that way you can still manage Screentime and restrictions on the devices over family sharing, but keep their messages and FaceTime calls separate from each other.

You can provide feedback to Apple at Product Feedback - Apple, and even enough people do, they may choose to add more Family Sharing slots for more children.

For the issue with the iPad handed down to your daughter, you will get problems if you just sign out of your Apple ID and sign into it with hers. The proper way is by Factory Resetting the device, so it can be set up with your daughters Apple ID. If that is not done, all the apps, photos, contacts can remain on the device when you sign out and will be added to her iCloud when she signs in. That does make for a mess.

How to factory reset your iPhone, iPad, or iPod touch - Apple Support

You don't need Family Sharing to protect your kids. That can be done with Screen Time on their device where you can create the settings and protect it with a Passcode that they do not know. It is more convenient to do it from your device, but choose which ones need to be on the Family plan. Any child under 13 will need to be on the plan, but you can use the restrictions on the device for the older kids. All the restrictions work the same whether they are set on an indidiual device or set on your device with the members that are in the Family plan.