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Recent changes to Apple Card installments are unfriendly to the consumer, and drastically diminish the value of the card to me by fully eliminating my primary purpose.

Recent changes to Apple Card's monthly installments feature prevent users from checking out without connecting the device to T-Mobile, AT&T, or Verizon. Options for purchasing an unlocked device directly using the main benefit of Apple Card, have been eliminated.


There is zero reason why my choice of carrier should preclude directly purchasing an unlocked device from Apple.


While it was frustrating losing access to the iPhone Upgrade Program due to not selecting the "right" choice of carrier, at least there was an option remaining via Apple Card to do business directly with Apple; after all I am buying an Apple device, directly from Apple. My carrier is of no consequence; it is fully my prerogative to buy the thing and store it in a drawer for 2 years unactivated if I want.


Turning away interested customers on the basis of using a less popular carrier than three specific ones, is silly, unnecessary, and anti-consumer. This is a situation in which a customer intends to buy a computing device from a computer company--this isn't a car, and we don't need to prove insurance or licensure to operate it. I am within my rights to buy and use an iPhone as an offline calculator so far as Apple is concerned. It is foolish to lock out dedicated customers intent on buying an expensive device within the next month, based on whether they choose to do business that isn't actually required, with a company that isn't Apple.


My primary use of the Apple Card no longer exists, and the service no longer offers any of its primary value to me.


I sincerely hope these policy decisions are reconsidered.

Posted on Aug 15, 2023 5:49 PM

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Posted on Dec 23, 2023 8:16 PM

I went today to buy myself a new iPhone 15 pro for Xmas to only walk out empty handed. I learned that I cannot use my Apple credit card financing because my network is Mint. I am very disappointed in the system and looking to switch entirely to android, the entire household. Too bad.

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Feb 10, 2024 9:35 AM in response to Jeff Donald

Hey there Jeff

Sorry for necro-ing this thread. But I'd lost my job back in September and thankfully am starting a new one next week, but during the time of unemployment, (Nothing humbles you faster than losing your job, am I right?) I made several cost-cutting measures that I'd actually like to just keep. One of those was going BACK to prepaid after years of being on postpaid with a hefty discount that I had through my former company. I will have the same discount with my new job--but why bother? I'm on Visible and the price is amazing and my service is actually BETTER than it was with regular old postpaid. For whatever reason, I only just now realized that when I go to upgrade this fall, I'm going to run into this issue and frankly, it's just garbage. I'm even more frustrated that Apple (AS USUAL) never feels the need to say WHY they make changes like this--esp. when the decisions are incredibly consumer un-friendly. As far as I'm concerned, Apple should (once their deal with AT&T ended three thousand years ago) always be willing to sell unlocked iPhones on day 1 of launch in the US market. I'd go further and say they need to enforce "one-per-customer" rules to keep any scalping shenanigans from happening. But ending Apple Card financing when that is really the only actual perk of the otherwise lower-than-average credit card? This just seems completely stupid.


My backup plan right now is to just buy the phone outright going forward on the AppleCard, pocket the 3% cash back, then cash out some credit card points from one of my other card ecosystems to wipe the purchase. I am a consultant who travels a LOT for work; so I'm always flush with so many more points than I'd ever realistically use.

Apr 5, 2024 4:19 AM in response to Jeff Donald

Yet this thread is specifically about ACMI. The requirement that the buyer provide account details with ATT, TMO or VZN is anti-consumer.


That part is a legitimate complaint.


Apple card holders want BOTH the benefits of the ACMI and the rebates associated with using their Apple Card AND the freedom to not be required to provide account details for one of the three major carriers.


Yes, there is a lot of FUD surrounding the phone being locked to a carrier. If one buys the phone through Apple, the phone isn't locked.


If you take an ATT, TMO or VZN deal, the phone will be locked.


As one who has an Apple Card, I would like to see the requirement for ATT, TMO or VZN to use the 24 month ACMI dropped.


I'm fortunate that I DO have an ATT account and that I can get ATT to waive the $35 "new device activation" when you move the eSIM to the device.


However, if someone has gone to the trouble to get an Apple Card and are buying directly from Apple, they probably don't want requirements related to a specific carrier. They want to buy a phone and not have the carrier as part of the transaction.

Apr 5, 2024 4:50 AM in response to buff.uniballer

There are two easy methods to do exactly what you want. Both are easy to do. I have my 15 Pro Max on installments and it took all of about 3 minutes to accomplish. It took more time for you to write you post than it would have taken you to purchase an iPhone on installments.😀


I’ve explained them multiple times in multiple posts in the forums here and on Facebook. It’s been explained many more times on Reddit and probably X (formerly Twitter) multiple times.



May 11, 2024 5:55 AM in response to semipermeable

Apple's new financing plan doesn't work for me. I got a raise recently and decided to upgrade from my iPhone 12 to the iPhone 15 Pro. I want to do some lidar, image stacking, and metadata embedding experiments. Plus, I want to switch all my cables to USB-C 3 for a single, versatile cable solution. But then I found out the deal: $1,400 upfront or $45 a month, locked into a carrier for two years. I can afford both, but paying $1,400 at once for a phone doesn't make sense when my current one works just fine.


So, I’m sticking with my iPhone 12 until it breaks. I buy my phones outright and go for a month-to-month unlimited data plan. I avoid contracts and 'phone upgrade' schemes because they're just ways for carriers to lock you in and squeeze out extra money. By staying flexible, I can leave any time they start pulling sleazy moves.

Recent changes to Apple Card installments are unfriendly to the consumer, and drastically diminish the value of the card to me by fully eliminating my primary purpose.

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