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Recent changes to Apple Card installments are unfriendly to the consumer, and drastically diminish the value of the card to me by fully eliminating my primary purpose.

Recent changes to Apple Card's monthly installments feature prevent users from checking out without connecting the device to T-Mobile, AT&T, or Verizon. Options for purchasing an unlocked device directly using the main benefit of Apple Card, have been eliminated.


There is zero reason why my choice of carrier should preclude directly purchasing an unlocked device from Apple.


While it was frustrating losing access to the iPhone Upgrade Program due to not selecting the "right" choice of carrier, at least there was an option remaining via Apple Card to do business directly with Apple; after all I am buying an Apple device, directly from Apple. My carrier is of no consequence; it is fully my prerogative to buy the thing and store it in a drawer for 2 years unactivated if I want.


Turning away interested customers on the basis of using a less popular carrier than three specific ones, is silly, unnecessary, and anti-consumer. This is a situation in which a customer intends to buy a computing device from a computer company--this isn't a car, and we don't need to prove insurance or licensure to operate it. I am within my rights to buy and use an iPhone as an offline calculator so far as Apple is concerned. It is foolish to lock out dedicated customers intent on buying an expensive device within the next month, based on whether they choose to do business that isn't actually required, with a company that isn't Apple.


My primary use of the Apple Card no longer exists, and the service no longer offers any of its primary value to me.


I sincerely hope these policy decisions are reconsidered.

Posted on Aug 15, 2023 5:49 PM

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Posted on Dec 23, 2023 8:16 PM

I went today to buy myself a new iPhone 15 pro for Xmas to only walk out empty handed. I learned that I cannot use my Apple credit card financing because my network is Mint. I am very disappointed in the system and looking to switch entirely to android, the entire household. Too bad.

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May 27, 2024 2:19 PM in response to MEZOEL

MEZOEL wrote:

I see no reason to have an Apple Card if you can’t purchase Apple products with 0% apr monthly payment without any carrier you prefer . I’m someone who travels a lot and I change carriers in every different country what they did is just a nonsense.

You are not required to have one and are free to choose any card you wish. Others find the benefits and rebates useful as well as the ease to make payments.

Aug 15, 2023 6:03 PM in response to semipermeable

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Sep 12, 2023 5:44 PM in response to Chattanoogan

Yes you can switch to any carrier when starting activation but on checkout it checks if you have an account with selected carrier, so you cant “switch” the way your stating. Part of the benefit of signing up for the Apple Card was a no charge installment plan no mention that it needed to be tied to the Big 3 It no longer applies if you do not have one the 3 major services, I unfortunately do not.

Dec 24, 2023 7:29 PM in response to semipermeable

Well, get this. I am a Verizon user for over a decade now, and I have the apple credit card, and I still had to pay full price. If this was housing, this would be a violation of FHA. For me, I’m unsure how my particular Verizon line is unqualified, but for those of you who are denied payment plans despite having the CC because you choose a carrier outside of the expensive trifecta carriers, is just another form of elitism and possibly, much worse.

Mar 10, 2024 3:10 PM in response to tlfuller

I did this back in October. If you buy from Apple specifying ATT as the carrier, the phone is NOT locked.


If you choose AT&T's deal, the phone is locked.


I purchased using ACMI and ATT as the carrier and the phone was unlocked. I had an AT&T and a Mint Mobile line and put the eSIM for each of them on the phone without issue.


I've since ported the ATT line to RedPocket on ATT towers without drama.

Feb 10, 2024 9:40 AM in response to julienpdx

I’m sorry to hear about the circumstances, but this post if 6 months old and a lot has changed. Again, you can set this up several ways, but in order to provide more details, I need to know few things.


  1. who is the carrier you want to use?
  2. does the carrier use/accept eSIMs?
  3. are you trying to trade in a device and if so, which one?
  4. Where are you trying to purchase the iPhone, online from Apple, in an Apple Retail Store, where?

Recent changes to Apple Card installments are unfriendly to the consumer, and drastically diminish the value of the card to me by fully eliminating my primary purpose.

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