Final Cut Pro unable to handle transitions and titles on vertical videos.

Hello all!


I'm editing vertical videos on a daily basis and I have some third party transitions (custom made by a Motion Artist on Fiverr) that the application randomly unable to handle. Sometime it works, sometimes it doesn't. The transition creates a grey background on the bottom or top half of the screen. As shown below:



I have a motion blur title that I use as well. It also creates a black bar at the bottom of the screen. Often it's the upper half. Randomly. I couldn't find any correlation between the raw files and the issue. Or anything else. Often if I change the resolution to HD from 4K it works perfectly. But the issue will be present in HD resolution so I need to change it to 4K and then it works perfectly. The aspect ratio is matching with the vertical clips, this has been confirmed by the Motion Artist. I'm running out of ideas how I can approach a problem and how to find a way to fix it. See below.



If you have any idea why this is happening, please do let me know as I'm really eager to hear some fresh ideas to get this done once and for all.


Many thanks in advance,


Bal

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Posted on Sep 10, 2022 09:00 AM

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Sep 14, 2022 02:44 AM in response to fox_m

Hi Fox M,


I'm incredible thankful for your willingness to help and creating the transition from the ground up! I don't want to stretch your already generous offer far, however if you could put some motion blur in the transition it would make it look a lot better! Is it possible at all? Your transition looks glowing and hazy, rather than blurry, which makes it fall out of our transitions we use. Please see the images attached. We would be happy to reimburse you for your efforts.



Sep 10, 2022 02:56 PM in response to BalazsKovacs

I'm guessing it's a badly constructed template (with respect to any other aspect ratio than 16:9). There are certain conditions that get all messed up when Final Cut tries to conform (let's just call it) added content to any aspect ratio other than the one the template was created in. There are very few templates made that work the same in 16:9 (or larger) and 9:16.


What are the names of the templates and are there any videos you can link to (not on Fiverr) that show how they work (when they're working properly.)

Sep 12, 2022 09:55 AM in response to BalazsKovacs

I can't download or do anything with these templates. They "belong" to (were created by) somebody else and if you purchased them, they are "commercial" -- it's their work and copyright and I have a competing business. I can get away with repairing templates Apple provides with Final Cut (for free) because of the EULA and everybody already has the same templates to begin with.


There may be several different reasons why these problems may be happening, most likely is that it is an issue (or issues) with 16:9 templates being used in a vertical video project. One way around this might be creating a 16:9 project, make your transition clips Compound Clips and apply the transitions to the compounds. Then copy and paste the clips back into your 9:16 project.


If that doesn't cure the problem, then your next step would be to contact the the template maker for help. (Sorry I can't be more help...)




Sep 12, 2022 11:58 PM in response to fox_m

Hello Fox M,


Yes, this is how we used to do the videos, but it takes at lest twice as long to cut a video, then just working right inside the vertical project right away.


I'm assuming you already well know how to install a transition, but in case if you don't drop the Zoom In (VL) folder to /Users/Your User Name/Movies/Motion Templates folder and make the extension .localized. This way will show up in your transition folder and test them out. The Motion artist who created these confirmed that the aspect ratio is 9:16, hence it's working perfectly on his end, but not on our Macs. I hope this helps to get to the bottom of the problem.

Sep 13, 2022 07:45 AM in response to BalazsKovacs

What's really weird is that the transition will PLAY correctly in FCP. You can make the transition long and it does the zoom in slowly and cleanly. However, if you step through the transition from the first frame you can immediately see there is a problem, and the problem exports. You see the problem in playback in QuickTime. I don't understand why though it will play smoothly and correctly in the FCP timeline.

Sep 13, 2022 08:11 AM in response to BalazsKovacs

Welcome to the club guys! I'm glad to see that others find no logic in the errors too, but I'm sad to see that no one seems to know what the issue is.


Please keep sharing experiences and it is has to be a fix for this. We are building rockets to go to the Mars, we are colliding atoms over 27km long tunnels, but we can not fix a bloody FCP transition? Life is not fair!


We figured it out that if you change the resolution of the project, can fix it temporarily. Maybe this is something to do with the error over all?

Sep 13, 2022 10:30 AM in response to BalazsKovacs

As far as I can tell, there are 2 *vertical* transitions (VL) and 2 horizontal aspect transitions (PV -- whatever that stands for).


I know that two of them have been updated recently (Aug 2022 -- originals made in Sept 2020 -- or at least the PV versions were made then) and they were both the vertical versions.


Which of the four transitions are broken - for you? I only see an issue with Zoom In (VL).


In Zoom In (VL) - what is the drop zone supposed to be used for? Why isn't there a corresponding one in Zoom Out (VL)?


Also, in Zoom In (VL) the Project > Duration [Timecode] is 00:00:01:00 (1 second), but the actual Project *Length* (canvas) is 2:00 seconds. I can't wrap my head around this one -- never seen it before.


It looks like somebody else has already tried to make alterations to the two vertical zoom transitions -- so -- we're attempting to fix a fix?


It's gonna take awhile... (I'm not a big fan of transitions...)


Sep 13, 2022 07:50 PM in response to BalazsKovacs

I didn't fix the templates. Didn't even really try. I built a new one from scratch but used the timing setup as a guide.


My one template will do both Zoom In and Zoom Out. (Menu selection [Direction]). The zoom amount can be scaled ([Zoom Boost]).


My one template will work in 9:16 vertical, square, HD (16:9) formats and beyond. (When using a transition template in Final Cut media should fill the aspect ratio of the project.)


Free for a limited time:

https://fcpxtemplates.com/zoom-i-o/

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