Malwarebytes or Sophos or Both?

What does community feel is needed for my MacBook Pro for personal use. I've had both installed on my system for several years and they've never identified any threats. Is it my clean online living or are these programs not needed -- or maybe that's why no threats have been detected -- by their being there and running actively. Thanks.



MacBook Pro 15″, macOS 11.3

Posted on Jul 2, 2022 10:15 AM

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Posted on Jul 2, 2022 01:33 PM

There is no reason to ever install or run any 3rd party "cleaning", "optimizing", "speed-up", anti-virus, VPN or security apps on your Mac.  This user tip describes what you need to know and do in order to protect your Mac: Effective defenses against malware and other threats - Apple Community.  


There are no known viruses, i.e. self propagating, for Macs.  There are, however, adware and malware which require the user to install although unwittingly most of the time thru sneaky links, etc.   


Anti Virus developers try to group all types as viruses into their ad campaigns of fear.  They do a poor job of the detecting and isolating the adware and malware.  Since there are no viruses these apps use up a lot of system resources searching for what is non-existent and adversely affect system and app performance.


There is one app, Malwarebytes, which was developed by a long time contributor to these forums and a highly respected member of the computer security community, that is designed solely to seek out adware and known malware and remove it.  The free version is more than adequate for most users. The free version doesn't run continuously in the background. You only run it when you feel you need to. That way it doesn't interfere with the system's performance by using CPU resources.  


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Jul 2, 2022 01:33 PM in response to Trombino

There is no reason to ever install or run any 3rd party "cleaning", "optimizing", "speed-up", anti-virus, VPN or security apps on your Mac.  This user tip describes what you need to know and do in order to protect your Mac: Effective defenses against malware and other threats - Apple Community.  


There are no known viruses, i.e. self propagating, for Macs.  There are, however, adware and malware which require the user to install although unwittingly most of the time thru sneaky links, etc.   


Anti Virus developers try to group all types as viruses into their ad campaigns of fear.  They do a poor job of the detecting and isolating the adware and malware.  Since there are no viruses these apps use up a lot of system resources searching for what is non-existent and adversely affect system and app performance.


There is one app, Malwarebytes, which was developed by a long time contributor to these forums and a highly respected member of the computer security community, that is designed solely to seek out adware and known malware and remove it.  The free version is more than adequate for most users. The free version doesn't run continuously in the background. You only run it when you feel you need to. That way it doesn't interfere with the system's performance by using CPU resources.  


Jul 4, 2022 04:49 PM in response to Owl-53

P. Phillips wrote:

Any of the below should be removed as per Developers Instructions 

This will include BitDefender ,

There has been sufficient advise offered, from several Contributors, for the User to make an informed and educated choice what the next course of action is required.

The suggestions have been put forth on a volunteer basis, in good faith and in the best interests of the computer.

Jul 2, 2022 01:58 PM in response to Trombino

Two more Cents here


There are no known Windows-like Viruses in the wild that self replicate and affect macOS, because of the underling UNIX  Foundation and Permission Limitation. 


Additionally, and specific to Big Sur macOS 11 and Monterey macOS 12, the Operating System resides in a Sealed and Read Only Volume that can not be opened by the User or “ Bad Actor “ Software.


The Only thing this Antivirus software is protecting is the Bank Account of the Developers and for zero return to the User aside from the problems this software creates.


The The Built in Security  is all that is required to protect the computer.

Jul 4, 2022 03:54 PM in response to jimfromgowanda

Any of the below should be removed as per Developers Instructions 


This will include BitDefender ,


There has been sufficient advise offered, from several Contributors, for the User to make an informed and educated choice what the next course of action is required.


The suggestions have been put forth on a volunteer basis, in good faith and in the best interests of the computer.

Jul 2, 2022 10:40 AM in response to Trombino

I would not let any typical AV software anywhere near my Mac. Not Sophos, Norton, Bitdefender, Avast, or other. They are all useless as there are no viruses that can affect the Mac OS, and they do nothing to stop you from installing or running Trojans.


Malwarebytes is mostly an "after the fact" tool. That is, helping to remove adware and other malware you've already installed. In such cases, use it, then remove it.

Jul 2, 2022 02:13 PM in response to Trombino

Something not mentioned about MalwareBytes. When you first install it, it runs in demo mode for a certain amount of time. Meaning, all cost features are enabled. Once that time has passed, it reverts to free mode. Which does nothing unless you choose to launch the app and run it.


The point of this is even in free mode, it will look for new definitions file when you launch it. So there's no need to remove it, then reinstall it later to get the "latest" version. It will otherwise just sit on the drive doing nothing until you choose to run it.

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