OSX can't be installed on this disk. MacOS isn't installed

I'm trying to install an older OS (Yosemite), downloaded from the Apple website, from my computer currenty running High Sierra, to an external drive in order to create a bootable Yosemite drive. (All this so I can continue to occasionally use other older software, incompatible with High Sierra.)


When I select the external drive, I get the message "OSX can't be installed on this disk. MacOS isn't installed". The external drive is formatted to Mac OS Extended (Journaled), which I believe to be the correct formatting to accept Yosemite. The computer meanwhile is formatted to APFS. I tried installing to an APFS external drive, and got the same message, which I guess is to be expected.


Some time ago I successfully installed from the same installation package to a different Mac OS Extended (journaled) external drive. When I attempt to boot from that drive, I get as far as the login window where my correct name is displayed as a user, plus an 'Other', and I am asked for my password. My admin password is not accepted - I have only ever had the one admin password through my Apple life. I have never had a personal user password - I never need to login.


So I have two distinct issues with trying to create a bootable external drive containing Yosemite. Can anyone help?




MacBook Pro 15″, macOS 10.13

Posted on Jul 31, 2025 08:27 AM

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Jul 31, 2025 09:35 AM in response to John Howarth

The first option is a nonstarter for the simple reason that we cannot install an older version of OS X / macOS on a drive being used on a system running some later version.


Stated another way, the format of the external drive doesn't matter, nor does the format of the startup drive / volume. The limiting factor is that the Mac isn't running Yosemite, or something earlier.


We can't even create a "bootable USB installer" on a Mac running anything later than the installer you're trying to create. You must boot Yosemite, or an earlier operating system. Then you're in business.


Some time ago I successfully installed from the same installation package to a different Mac OS Extended (journaled) external drive.


Can't explain that one. Too many unknowns.


Workaround? If your MBP was even capable of running Yosemite, boot from its original, grey, System Install DVD assuming that Mac shipped with one. Install OS X on an external drive, and boot from it. Then, you're in business.


Didn't ship with DVDs? Boot OS X Recovery, which may convey the ability to reinstall that Mac's originally installed operating system. Same idea.

Jul 31, 2025 12:11 PM in response to John Galt

Many thanks for your response. So I have to have a working version of the OS I want to install, before I can install it? Makes sense but no sense!


My Macbook (mid 2015) was delivered with Yosemite, but sadly no DVD or the means to insert one.

I tried the Recovery route you suggested, but Recovery only allowed me to re-install High Sierra, with no option to access the version of Yosemite (the one giving me difficulties) attached on an external drive.


At least I now understand how my previous partially successful installation occurred - that was before I upgraded my MPB system to High Sierra. Why it requires a password that I never had is the bewildering part.

Jul 31, 2025 12:49 PM in response to John Howarth

I can only guarantee what I have done myself, and I am less than 100% certain it won't work, only because I haven't tried it recently — and recently, older macOS versions are becoming increasingly difficult to install.


I tried the Recovery route you suggested, but Recovery only allowed me to re-install High Sierra, with no option to access the version of Yosemite (the one giving me difficulties) attached on an external drive.


Boot Recovery using one of the key combinations that result in booting that Mac's originally installed operating system. Which one? Good question because recently (that word again) Apple added some language to the an earlier version of their Support document How to start up from macOS Recovery - Apple Support. It was confusing enough, and has since been superseded.


  • Try each key combination: Command-R, Shift-Command-R, and Option-Shift-Command-R.


One of them resulted in booting the Mac's originally installed operating system. Which one I don't happen to recall. The previous version explained it better, but with "weasel words" added to it, saying one key combination "might" result in this, another "might" result in that.


Try each one.

Jul 31, 2025 11:49 PM in response to John Howarth

In the distant past I made Yosemite bootable installer with this command but it might not work anymore if Apple has changed things (in later macOS the "--applicationpath /Applications/Install\ OS\ X\ Yosemite.app --nointeraction" at the end of the command has not been necessary):


sudo /Applications/Install\ OS\ X\ Yosemite.app/Contents/Resources/createinstallmedia --volume /Volumes/Untitled --applicationpath /Applications/Install\ OS\ X\ Yosemite.app --nointeraction


Create a bootable installer for macOS - Apple Support


Or, boot to Internet Recovery via Shift-Option-Command-R which should let you install the earliest supported macOS, which might then be old enough to let you to upgrade to Yosemite.



Aug 3, 2025 05:18 AM in response to Matti Haveri

Hi John and Matti,


Thank you both for the Recovery suggestions. Shift-Option-Command-R worked and allowed me to download (verrry slow) Yosemite to an external drive. That created what is effectively a brand new Mac - I had to go through all the processes of creating an identity for that new Mac, which exists on the external drive.


What I am so far unable to do is access my internal drive after booting from that external drive. I cannot see a 'Macintosh HD' icon, even though I have enabled Hard Disk visibility in System Preferences from the newly created mac. I have seen your other post John about turning on Sharing, but I can't make that work. Also, I do not see a System Folder visible on the external drive, only an Applications folder, with the 'new' Mac's apps, and a Users folder.

Aug 3, 2025 05:23 AM in response to MrHoffman

MrHoffman, I did none of those things. I used my 10.13 system to download a 10.10 installer. I tried to then install from that installer to an external drive, which failed. Subsequent to your post, I then tried going the createinstallmedia route, which also failed to provide an installer which installed.


I have now successfully used Recovery mode to install the original system from my Mac (Yosemite) onto an external drive. This successfully boots up as a new Mac, but so far I have been unable to access any data from my existing internal drive.

Aug 3, 2025 05:30 AM in response to John Howarth

John Howarth wrote:

I have now successfully used Recovery mode to install the original system from my Mac (Yosemite) onto an external drive. This successfully boots up as a new Mac, but so far I have been unable to access any data from my existing internal drive.

What format is the internal drive -- did you say in your 1st post that it is APFS? If yes, the there is your answer because Yosemite does not support APFS like High Sierra does.

Aug 3, 2025 06:36 AM in response to John Howarth

Matti Haveri pointed out the fact Yosemite won't be able to read an APFS formatted volume so that's the answer to that question.


What you can do though is to boot your (now dual-boot) Mac into High Sierra which will be able to read the external HFS+ formatted volume. In that manner you can copy files from the internal to the external drive.


The major caveat is that any work products created by programs designed for High Sierra may not be readable by their earlier, Yosemite equivalents. Basic, generic files such as JPEG images, ASCII text files, certain word processing or spreadsheet documents, that sort of thing will be ok.

Aug 3, 2025 10:07 AM in response to John Galt

Thanks John Galt and Matti Haveri both for pointing out the APFS issue. Makes sense. Frustrating and annoying, and incredibly time consuming, but makes sense.


A dual-boot Mac is not the magic answer I imagined! I have managed to move files as you suggested, and I have had to re-download the software which was the reason for all this, including re-downloading hardware drivers (audio hardware and software, since you're asking). It's kinda working, but it seems there are still some hurdles I have to negotiate before I can hear anything. I put all the new files onto a 64GB USB stick, but now I realise that that is the entire working space of the 'new' computer, maybe it needs more room.. I'm now shifting the entire newly created contents onto a bigger HD. Will that work? Or am I on a hiding to nothing? The first estimate of the copy time was 1 day. Maybe the 37º where I am (99º in American) is not helping. Everything is rather stuttery




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