FCPX-Compressor: Conforming/converting 29.97 fps to 24 fps.

I read that it is possible to convert 29.97 to 24 fps using Compressor. In several places, including Apple, it says to click the "Retiming Quality" and select "Reverse Telecine". My master is ProRes 422 HQ. In Compressor there is NO "Retiming Quality", and in the "Quality" section everything is greyed out. There is no "Retiming Quality" choice.


This is Compressor 4.10. On an Intel (maxed out) system. Everything the latest update. When I do a search it says that Compressor 4.10 is the latest version. What might I be missing here?

MacBook Pro 16″, macOS 15.3

Posted on Apr 8, 2025 7:20 AM

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Apr 9, 2025 1:13 PM in response to Ben Low

I don't think reverse telecine is applicable to your process as it is intended to remove the identical extra fields created during telecine in going from the slower 24 fps film original to the higher 29.97 fps. Since your footage does not contain those extra identical fields, there would be nothing for reverse telecine to remove.


As you say the bigger issue is the consequences of the smoothness of motion that results from dropping 6 source frames per second. One would think that Optical Flow would go along way to help with that but the result would have to be appraised when the converted file is projected.


MtD



Apr 9, 2025 12:31 PM in response to Meg The Dog

I did going from 29.97 to 30 fps. It seemed to work.


Now I'm making myself a 29.97 (optical flow turned on for each clip) version from FCPX to Compressor directly. Then I am going to try and figure out how to convert that 29.97 to 24. It seems like the idea DCP for these theatres is 24 fps.


One of the theatres did their own DCP from my ProRes 29.97 ... using Dolby CineAsset ... converting the 29.97 to 24 in the process. They say it worked. But I haven't had a chance to see the results in a theatre. And I'm not sure how closely they were watching it when they screened their results.


So. At the moment, I'm trying to find a way to make my 29.97 master a 24 fps ... with which I can make my own DCP using DCP-o-matic.


I can't get Compressor to do a 'reverse telecine' ... none of the 'quality' settings work, they are all greyed out. I've been told Compressor 4.6 is the latest version (that's where these settings are supposed to be found). I've got version 4.10 ... which I think is even more recent: Apple is weird on this. They say 4.6 is the latest version, then you click the link and it takes you to 4.10. With no explanation as to the version number shift.

Apr 9, 2025 2:38 PM in response to Meg The Dog

The reverse telecine was one of the suggestions I came across when searching ... and they were talking about 29.97 to 24. I confess I didn't understand their reasoning. But it was one of the first answers that came up when I did a search. (Expressly related to using Compressor to make the conversion.)


I used the Optical Flow when going to 30 fps and it seemed to work. But further research suggests finding a way to get a 24 fps for those particular projectors. I'm still searching hither and thither. Time for a cigar on the balcony and contemplating eternity.

Apr 9, 2025 6:49 PM in response to joema

Thank you Joema ...


Great procedure. I'm trying it now. I got one done earlier and it looked okay (not seen on an IMAX screen). I'm trying to see if there is any difference in using Linear/Bicubic/the Lancsos2or3 ... and whether clicking 'Adaptive Limiter' has any effect. I am curious ... in Logic, and even FCPX, I sometimes use an 'Adaptive limiter' but it's always related to audio (a kind of compression algorithm to be used wisely) ... I'm not sure what it's doing in Compressor and making a video, or if it means the same thing (compressing the audio). Google AI says it's something else. I'm not sure I trust Google AI.


Thank you for your help Joema. Making a 'preset' for myself is a great idea. I've been slack in that department, always starting from scratch (and thus sometimes forgetting a click). Veyr much appreciated.


I'm going to try a couple of the choices in the 'Quality' and see if it makes any difference. Will report back here.


This would save my film, if I can get a decent conversion to 24 fps. At least in terms of a theatrical run.

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