apple products that do not have Siri

I was watching the TV program ,”Person of Interest” while using my Mac Book Pro laptop .


A friend was talking to me. The Siri ball like indicator showed on my laptop screen. My computer asked my friend to repeat her last statement as it did not understand our conversation.


I did not activate Siri. No one asked Siri anything. Nothing was said that sounded anything close to Siri. Yet Siri was doing surveillance on us while we were watching a program that involved government surveillance. That is very creepy.


I went thru my computer and my Iphone and tried to turn Siri off. Turns out that after you turn Siri off you also have to go thru all of your apps settings and turn Siri off while revoking permissions.


Each time you download an app or update your operating system you have to check everything to make sure Apple is not sneaking something in. The last two so called Security updates I have received were actually attempts to add more surveillance to my devices. They call it AI, but it is surveillance.


I purchased my Mac & Iphone because Apple had a reputation as a security leader. From my experiences I do not believe they still deserve that title.


With Siri “turned off” my phone and computer keep making attempts to force me to use Safari web browser.

With Siri “turned off” I still get occasional suggestions from Siri.


I’m a believer that future Apple products should not have Siri & Safari an integrated part of the operating system. It should be available in the App store for those that want it. We should have choice of web browser also. To force you to use their AI, web browser, and Siri makes Apple just as bad as their competitors whom they claim to be better than. 🤔


What are your experiences with this? Does anyone truly make a secure computer or phone that does not try to force their software on you?

iPhone 13 Pro Max

Posted on Mar 23, 2025 1:59 PM

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Mar 23, 2025 2:23 PM in response to Smurfitranger

  • You are confusing Siri voice assistant with Siri Suggestions. They are 2 different things. To disable the Siri voice assistant, that is done in the single location where you can shut off Siri.
  • If Siri is activated inadvertently, you can also choose to use "Hey Siri" for the activation as this is less likely to respond to similar sounding words. For example "Shirley" may be heard as "Siri" and activate when you did not want it to. That could be from your conversation or anything in the background including your TV. The other option is to turn it off where it will not be activated at all.
  • Siri Suggestions are what you turn off in the Apps portion of the Settings. Those have nothing to do with external sources and only for information you have provided on your phone, unless you have multiple devices using the same Apple ID. For example, Maps may tell you drive time to a location you normally go based on your history, or you may have a suggestion to text someone on their Birthday if you have added that day in your contacts for that person.
  • You are free to use any browser you wish and can set any one of them as your Default Browser. The default browser will then open from a link.


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Mar 23, 2025 2:26 PM in response to Smurfitranger

“I’m a believer that future Apple products should not have Siri & Safari an integrated part of the operating system. It should be available in the App store for those that want it. We should have choice of web browser also.”


Safari is a web browser, nothing more.

Use it or not, it’s your choice. You are never forced to use it. You are free to use whatever web browser you like. None are blocked.


As for the rest of your post, well, everything isn’t a conspiracy.

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