Thunderbolt vs USB hub for 2018 Mini?

I have a 2018 Mini i7. I need expansion to be able to host multiple external SSDs and HDs for doing a lot of media file transfers and fairly processor intensive stuff.


So i was considering a USB hub - i would like to take advantage of optimal data transfer speeds. I got lost in a maze of options on Amazon. First i was figuring i needed multiple USB-C (smaller connector) ports...then it was suggested i consider a TB hub. I'm sufficiently confused now with the various incarnations of USB 3/3.1/3.2 and now TB 3/4...


So what is 'backwards compatible on a TB hub if i wanted to connect USB devices and go into a TB port on a Mini. Figuring 10gbps speed is plenty, and i want a POWERED hub for sure.


Just let's say you needed to connect say...a couple of portable SSD drives with hard wired smaller USB-C cables... and say...a HDD in an Enclosure that can negotiate 10 gbps... but has the USB-A type cable.


Hoping to keep this under 100 bucks. Really just need a few more ports, maybe 4 total



Posted on Mar 5, 2025 01:27 PM

Reply
Question marked as Top-ranking reply

Posted on Mar 5, 2025 08:23 PM

MIKEinMICH wrote:

One other thought...if i went with a used previous OWC model... Can you tell me what the speed limit(s) would be if i decided to go with this one vs that new/current version?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/396284248400?

That is the same $129 OWC hub that I posted earlier.


Personally I'm not keen on E-Bay for electronics, but that is a good deal.

Similar questions

14 replies
Question marked as Top-ranking reply

Mar 5, 2025 08:23 PM in response to MIKEinMICH

MIKEinMICH wrote:

One other thought...if i went with a used previous OWC model... Can you tell me what the speed limit(s) would be if i decided to go with this one vs that new/current version?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/396284248400?

That is the same $129 OWC hub that I posted earlier.


Personally I'm not keen on E-Bay for electronics, but that is a good deal.

Mar 5, 2025 04:38 PM in response to MIKEinMICH

Hi Mike,


What is your current inventory of USB-A and USB-C devices...?

How many of your 2018 Mac mini's (2) USB-A ports and (4) TB/USB-C ports are currently free...?


Decent Thunderbolt Docks start at $150 and sharply increase in price depending on ports and options.

Because they are bus powered, they could be limited to 2 or perhaps 3 portable SSDs.

https://eshop.macsales.com/shop/docks


Typically most USB-C Hubs are not self-powered and rely on on the computers USB-C bus for power.

Because they are bus powered, they would be limited to 2 portable SSDs.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0D2Q2G7D4/ref=sspa_dk_detail_2?


Self-Powered USB-A Hub are cheaper and should not be ruled out as a way to free up your faster ports.

https://www.amazon.com/Anker-7-Port-Adapter-Charging-iPhone/dp/B014ZQ07NE/ref=sr_1_4?

Personally I use a self-powered 7 port USB-A 3.0 hub plugged into one of my 2018 Mac mini's USB-A port and pile all of my slower USB devices on to it. This leaves the 2018 Mac mini's other USB-A 3.0 free for an HDD as well as two or three of the faster TB/USB-C ports open for USB-C and TB SSDs.

Mar 5, 2025 06:58 PM in response to MIKEinMICH

The $129 OWC Thunderbolt Hub is a little over budget, but has exactly what you're looking for as far as ports and speed.

It is self-powered, has one extra USB-A 3.2 10Gb/s port and three Thunderbolt/USB-C ports.

https://eshop.macsales.com/shop/owc-thunderbolt-hub


If that Thunderbolt Hub does not have enough ports, then the $190 OWC 11 Port Thunderbolt Dock is the next step up.

It is self-powered, has 1 USB 2.0 port, 3 USB-A 10Gb/s ports, three Thunderbolt/USB-C ports, plus some extras.

https://eshop.macsales.com/shop/owc-thunderbolt-dock

Mar 5, 2025 08:12 PM in response to MIKEinMICH

MIKEinMICH wrote:

It does seem the OWC is the closest thing. I wonder if, with adapters or USB-A to USB-C those ports are backward compatible in case i'd want to go that route.

Yes USB-C to USB-A adapters will work in the USB-C ports of the OWC Hub or Dock, same as they do in the 2018 Mac mini's USB-C ports.

On the other hand...this is a thought. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0D31FXRCF?th=1

Not TB, but, with the right USB-C to USB-A cables, i 'think' - i could use those usb 3.2 ports for USB-C devices and get a big speed boost, no?

Again, "Self-Powered USB-A Hub are cheaper and should not be ruled out as a way to free up your faster ports"


Yes that one will give you a lot of High Speed USB-A ports.

Yes High Speed USB-A to USB-C adapters and/or cables will work for USB-C devices.


The two drawbacks that I see with that hub are,

1) it does not allow for the faster Thunderbolt SSDs and other TB devices.

2) it is not as future proof, when you want to move to a new Mac and Thunderbolt SSDs.

Mar 6, 2025 06:56 PM in response to MIKEinMICH

Why are your running such an old macOS version...?

That is the original macOS version that came on the 2018 Mac mini.

No wait let me guess, it is so that you can run some old 32bit audio software..


I'm guessing here, but I think that hub should work fine plugged into the 2018 Mac mini regardless of the macOS version. To me, the macOS 11 compatibility thing, points more towards older Mac's that did not have TB/3 USB-C ports and topped out at 10.15 Catalina.


FWIW I held my 2018 Mac mini back on Monterey for awhile, but broke down when Monterey no longer supported new software.

FWIW 2 My 2018 Mac mini is currently runs Sequoia just as good as Monterey without any issues.

Mar 7, 2025 06:09 AM in response to MIKEinMICH

Thunderbolt will give you speeds similar to an internal SSD whereas USB 3.0/USB-C will be around 8 times slower.


At first sight (to the uninitiated) that sounds bad but for all normal activities including video editing there will be no noticeable reduction in performance.


The only time the slow speed will be noticeable is when copying huge files (say 50GB) but how often do you do that?


If you are doing it all day long you definitely need Thunderbolt but if like me it is only done occasionally, waiting a bit longer is no problem.


I would suggest getting a 7 port powered hub for around £25 on Amazon.


Whether it's USB-A or USB-C does not matter as you can buy adapters very cheaply.


7 port powered hub


Just make sure the one you buy has its own power source.


I was tempted to get a 4 port hub to save a few quid but I'm glad I didn't as I now find myself using all 7 ports!

Mar 5, 2025 06:19 PM in response to den.thed

Hi, currently already have a powered 7 port USB-A port for various peripherals into one of the two USB A ports. One TB port dedicated to a TB audio interface that requires it. All other ports are in use by a combination of portable external SSD, a 2nd monitor with a video hub on it.... pretty maxed out!


If i want to have say, a couple additional SSDs or an HDD in action for some reason, cables have to be swapped out. I'm basically a few ports short even with all USBs in use!


I need to do a project entailing a lot of quicklook preview scanning of audio files on external SDDs, and transfer of some files into various folders on the same or another connected external HD...that's where i felt i needed a powered hub.


Someone in a forum said i should consider a powered TB hub vs the USB-C or other variations of USB.

That's why i was hoping there might be a modestly priced version that might have say...4 ports or less. I wasn't sure if one of the TB ports on the mini might accomodate that and if so whether i could still use USB on it and which 'incarnation' of USB that'd be.


Ideally would like to just expand by 4 or so ports and have the ability to see 10 gbps speeds with that additional hub. Hope that clarifies!


It's truly head-spinning sifting through the plethora of hubs on Amazon with all the different variations of USB that have evolved. I know USB-A is going to be restricted to the 5gb speed and not sure that i absolutely need faster than 10gbps data for most things...i just thought it'd be nice to be able to have that option for the sort of rapid-fire read/write tasks i occasionally have to do, using the mini as the host computer.


Thanks!

Mar 5, 2025 07:36 PM in response to MIKEinMICH

It does seem the OWC is the closest thing. I wonder if,with adapters or USB-A to USB-C those ports are backward compatible in case i'd want to go that route.


On the other hand...this is a thought. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0D31FXRCF?th=1


Not TB, but, with the right USB-C to USB-A cables, i 'think' - i could use those usb 3.2 ports for USB-C devices and get a big speed boost, no?

Mar 6, 2025 05:58 PM in response to den.thed

One other question if you don't mind on this... I'm worried there might be some sort of issue with this OWC dock...from what i see on the box description, it is compatible with OS 11 and above. Any idea why it would not be compatible with Mojave on my 2018 Mini? Always something! Too late to reach anybody at OWC so just thought i'd ask if anyone here might know about it. Thanks!


Mar 6, 2025 07:14 PM in response to den.thed

Yes, this particular Mini with Mojave is for legacy editing software - needs 32-bit (Mojave =end of the line)- not to mention HFS+ for read/write scratch disk (for recorded audio). Hence, the app works on the APFS formatted internal HD, but i have to write to an external HD formatted for HFS+.


No huge deal really... BUT - i can't find confirmation that this particular OWC TB hub is actually able to work with Mojave. It says "compatible with Big Sur and above" on the website description... whereas an older OWC 14-port TB dock is listed as compatible with Mojave. That one however appears to only have two USB-C type TB ports. As such it would only give me one extra TB port -because i'd have to use the other to connect it to the Mini. Funny that they call it a Thunderbolt Dock when it's mostly USB type ports. Alot of these are around in the used market. Finding something that gives me a few more ports has turned out to be far harder than I expected.


https://www.amazon.com/OWC-14-Port-Thunderbolt-Compatible-OWCTB3DK14PSG/dp/B07JMH6BSY/ref=asc_df_B07JMH6BSY?mcid=39bc561456c2307eb9b6668114f0a53b&hvocijid=2920983775519896730-B07JMH6BSY-&hvexpln=73&tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=730434177080&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=2920983775519896730&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9016890&hvtargid=pla-2281435179738&th=1

Mar 7, 2025 05:20 PM in response to Ian R. Brown

Thanks for the reply! This Mac Mini 2018 is my main machine for the business/studio, but I get where you're coming from. I know I’m probably overthinking the “need for speed,” but sometimes I do feel the CPU get taxed with certain editing tasks. It doesn't help that I’m using some legacy 32-bit software in Mojave in this case.


That said, I found a pretty good “open box” deal on the previous-gen OWC Thunderbolt hub for about $125 USD and decided to go for it. But I do appreciate your points about powered USB hubs for expansion. In fact, I already have the 7-port hub you mentioned. It’s on this studio Mini and right now literally every port on that machine (and the hub) is full!


Also, the point about USB-A vs. USB-C is spot on. The "all-USB-A" ones are cheaper and going with adapters makes sense. I did also pick up a couple more USB hubs. One’s a hybrid, with a mix of USB-C & USB-A ports—10 ports total, plus it has a 60W power adapter, so more juice for the setup. I figured I’d swap it in and move the 7-port one to another studio where I’ve got a 2018 i5 Mini.


Maybe overkill, but..rather have more capacity than less. I guess I could exchange the 'hybrid' USB hub for an all-USB-A one, but at this point, I feel like I’ve spent too much time down this rabbit hole, and I’m sure what I’ve bought will be more than enough for the foreseeable future.


Thanks again for the insights!

This thread has been closed by the system or the community team. You may vote for any posts you find helpful, or search the Community for additional answers.

Thunderbolt vs USB hub for 2018 Mini?

Welcome to Apple Support Community
A forum where Apple customers help each other with their products. Get started with your Apple Account.