After upgrade to Sonoma, opening of PAGES docs is VERY slow

Very strange about the PDF issue. I just went to the LibreOffice Documentation page and downloaded their Writer 24.8 PDF. I then clicked on the Safari 18.1.1 ↓⃝ button and double-clicked that PDF entry and it opened right up in Preview. No grumbles about available apps to open it. This was tested in Sequoia v15.1.1. Is Apple's Preview configured in a Finder Get Info window to be the default opening application for PDFs?

I don't have Sonoma installed and have been procrastinating updating my 16-in M1 Pro from Ventura to Sonoma. Just need a new Crucial Time Machine drive to do that. Guess I better order that backup drive… 🧐

You know, before I replaced it with an M4 Mac Mini Pro, I had an M2 Mac Mini Pro w/32 GB running Sonoma 14.7.1, and even a 179-page Pages document (granted, all text), opened up with acceptable responsiveness. So, your issue with Sun-dial responsive Pages documents is perplexing but not isolated.

I HAVE WASTED SO MUCH TIME ON THIS SONOMA 14.7.1 UPDATE THAT DESTROYED MY PAGES/ NUMBERS/PREVIEW WORKFLOW(yes all caps indicate my disgust and loathing) that I want to know why the person responsible for testing across recent OS's and chips has not been fired. If I wanted a lame unresponsive OS I would have switched to windoze; Instead I got windoze on Mac in this "update".

You should realize that anyone posting here is a fellow Mac user, not on Apple's payroll, and no Apple employees participate in these user-supported, public communities. We cannot fix issues in Apple's products that require product team(s) code-level intervention.

The closest you will get to communicating with the Apple product team is on the application menu for Pages, Numbers, or Keynote as a Provide ___ Feedback menu item. Declamatory shouting (using capitals) will not help.

Owning a Mac does not require you to use Apple's Pages, Numbers, or Keynote. There are a substantial number of alternatives including some (e.g. LibreOffice) that are entirely free.

Apple has placed the next round of macOS updates in release candidate status. That means that another update for Sonoma is forthcoming in the next couple of weeks and it may (or may not) resolve the current issues discussed in these threads.

Hello, Fraxis2007!

Sadly, no fix at all with 14.7.2 as far as I can see. All the same problems. Very disappointing.

He was talking about Sonoma 14.6.1. Sequoia 15.2 is already out. This issue may have been fixed for a long time already, it might be that you need to upgrade.

I simply gave up on Sonoma v14.7.2 and Pages v14.3 and upgraded my 16-in 2021 MBP M1 Pro to Sequoia v15.2. Now Pages v14.3 opens a 179-page document in under 10 seconds from the double-click.

The Apple product teams have their hands full addressing new and the support of introduced Apple Intelligence integration with applications on Sequoia. I doubt that the Pages lethargy issue on Sonoma will get fixed due to redirected developer focus.

Yes, I understand hardware and application dependencies that may restrict one's usage to Sonoma.

It has probably been mentioned elsewhere in this post's threads that there are plentiful alternatives to Apple's Pages, Numbers, or Keynote, provided those documents are initially exported from Apple's closed document architecture to Microsoft document formats that other applications can open or import.

It must be a regional thing - in my IT department, when we did an OS update and some programs lost functionality - I.E. were slow to open or lost some features like Apple programs did under this sonoma 14.x update - we called it "broken." Apps affected on my machine are Pages, Numbers, Keynote, Textedit and Preview so far. My Adobe apps - Lightroom Classic, Lightroom and Photoshop seem to be un-affected.

Pixel_Gurl wrote:

Too little too late. What about those of us who relied on you to provide quality professional products? YOU FAILED US.

No Apple employees participate in these fellow Mac user-supported and public communities. No one here failed you.

Since its inception in 2005, Apple's Pages, Numbers, and Keynote were never designed to be professional products with the same focus as Microsoft's products. Apple's tools are consumer-oriented products that some have used as prosumer tools and a few increasingly frustrated folks have tried to use them as professional tools. Apple is not competing with other vendors in this category of tools: neither for profit nor market share.

Most other products that can feature or performance supplant these Apple tools are more comprehensive and must perform or sacrifice revenue. You have application choices in this space. Blaming Apple won't accomplish anything in a user-only space.

Same here. I'm using Pages 14.3 on a MacBook Pro (M1 Pro) running Sonoma 14.7.2 - that's the case even with very short (< one page), simple text files. I'd appreciate updates and potential fixes as they might become available.

Many thanks Fraxis 2007. On 5 Jan 2025 I upgraded from Verdana to Sonoma 14.7.2, avoiding Sequoia until all updated Logic Pro plug-ins are available. After the update I was experiencing the exact same issues as the Author of this post. In addition Logic Pro was slow to load plug-ins and to Save.

Your suggestion to reset the user keychain fixed the problem.

I still use 1Password7 and was wondering if its presence may have caused a corruption with keychain during the OS upgrade. However I don't really care what caused the problem, only that it's fixed. Thanks again!

14.7.2 was so bad for me that my MBP M1 was unusable for anything 'pro'.  It wasn't only Pages that was ruined. Keynote was the same. Photos took ages to launch most times, and sometimes failed over and over again. Capture One 'recents' catalogues didn't work at all. And virtually everything felt unreliable or tediously slow. 

This week I finally updated to Sequoia 15.2 and - somewhat amazingly - everything is working perfectly again. It even seems snappier than ever now - though that may be the result of spending so long trying to live with with the mess that is 14.7.2.

I know there are some people contributing to this thread who aren't able yet to switch to 15.x - due to compatibility with key apps and plug-ins, and I can readily understand how desperate a situation that is to be in.

But if you can - (check compatibility with your own key apps first, of course) - based on my own experience, the upgrade does appear to be the only way out, and well worth while.