how to rollback to Catalina from Ventura
Ventura Update: printer not working, software not compatible, very frustrating. How do I roll back to Catalina on an iMac Pro 2017:
iMac (2017 – 2020)
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Ventura Update: printer not working, software not compatible, very frustrating. How do I roll back to Catalina on an iMac Pro 2017:
iMac (2017 – 2020)
Do you have a backup? Time Machine? Carbon Copy Cloner?
The process would be to follow these two Apple Support documents to download Catalina then burn it to a flash drive.
How to download macOS - Apple Support
Create a bootable installer for macOS - Apple Support
Now if you do not have a backup, well that's a problem. It will be far more difficult. It is doable but it's far more complex.
Whenever you upgrade an operating system you need to check your software to see if it is compatible as well as your hardware accessories such as an old printer, etc.
Also it's not recommended to leap frog multiple operating system versions. There isn't much testing for an upgrade from N-3 (current minus 3 versions).
macOS Catalina -> macOS Big Sur -> macOS Montery -> macOS Ventura
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Apple releases macOS upgrades once a year every fall and then patches them with dot releases. It is typically wise to wait a few months after a new macOS version becomes available and to check forums like this one and others to see if people are reporting a lot of problems.
Since all of this is rather painful, what specific make/model printer do you have? What software is not compatible?
We may be able to offer some assistance fixing that or working around the issues, etc.
Do you have a backup? Time Machine? Carbon Copy Cloner?
The process would be to follow these two Apple Support documents to download Catalina then burn it to a flash drive.
How to download macOS - Apple Support
Create a bootable installer for macOS - Apple Support
Now if you do not have a backup, well that's a problem. It will be far more difficult. It is doable but it's far more complex.
Whenever you upgrade an operating system you need to check your software to see if it is compatible as well as your hardware accessories such as an old printer, etc.
Also it's not recommended to leap frog multiple operating system versions. There isn't much testing for an upgrade from N-3 (current minus 3 versions).
macOS Catalina -> macOS Big Sur -> macOS Montery -> macOS Ventura
└──────────────────────────┘
Apple releases macOS upgrades once a year every fall and then patches them with dot releases. It is typically wise to wait a few months after a new macOS version becomes available and to check forums like this one and others to see if people are reporting a lot of problems.
Since all of this is rather painful, what specific make/model printer do you have? What software is not compatible?
We may be able to offer some assistance fixing that or working around the issues, etc.
That's fine. I do my own technical support anyway. It is MUCH more important to have an OS that is compatible with my professional software.
But thanks for the reminder anyway.
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Thank you for your comprehensive response. And particularly your aquestion about printers. It's an Epson Ecoprint 2750. Even Epson says on their website there are no drivers or support for OS Ventura and admit that their product won't work. Canon also says the same thing.
As a professional we require printers and scanners. This is Tier 1 Peripheral. I succumbed to Apple's constant nagging to upgrade.
PS: I get your point about leapfrogging, but have done that since OS 5, MAC II in 1987 with all machines, no problem. Where necessary with certain software to stepwise, we do. Thanks though.
timkenneymarketing wrote:
That's fine. I do my own technical support anyway. It is MUCH more important to have an OS that is compatible with my professional software.
dialabrain didn't say anything about technical support. They were pointing out that Catalina will not receive any security updates. So, if someone discovers a vulnerability, it may end up not being patched on your computer. You may decide that the risk is worth it.
There seems to be quite a few changes since Monterey impacting printers and scanners. Not exactly sure what's changed under the hood to break all these printers but it seems to require manufacturers to update drivers. The problem is the manufacturers have moved on with newer models and it is to their benefit that you buy a newer model. They aren't going to allocate developer resources for an old product that isn't currently generating revenue. That printer might be working just fine, but when the manufacturer drops driver support. You get left behind. Reminds me quite a bit of the dark days of Android fragmentation where the manufacturers customized Android and therefore had to release an updated Android with their customizations. Then the carriers had to agree to release the update. Neither the manufacturers nor the carriers saw any incentive to actually do that. It was profitable to release new models and make consumers replace their old phones.
I really miss simpler days of 5-6 tiny files to setup a printer and they lasted decades. Heck, I just decommissioned an actual honest to goodness, HP LaserJet II printer that had a Centronics to USB cable. It was still working 36 years later! It whistled and whined and squealed and it was slow but it did actually still print. HP really made those early LaserJets far too well. I think they sold for $2,695 back in 1987. I believe it was the very first small desktop LaserJet. The previous models were enormous departmental sized printers.
At least the Epson EcoTank printers are inexpensive and scanners have come down in cost as well. It's a shame when you have to discard a piece of hardware that's still working perfectly fine when the manufacturer abandons the product support.
Just to add, macOS Catalina is no longer supported so there will be no more security updates or fixes.
Thank you, I understood perfectly. Technical support included malware removal and security defenses. We're pretty good at that actually. Not concerned
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