downground Mac 13 inch from Ventura

Hi,

I just bought a Mac pro 13inch, and the resellers wrongly put Ventura on, but it really sucks. I'm having too many problems with it. How can I downgrade to Monterrey and what are the steps How long will it take? I've never done this before. Thank you.

MacBook Pro 13″, macOS 10.12

Posted on Feb 6, 2023 4:31 AM

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Posted on Feb 6, 2023 5:12 AM

Welcome


How long does it take ?


Depends on your skill set, Internet Connection Speeds.


Have No needed to downgrade but have used the the below method.


It took about 1 1/2 Hours to 2 Hours Starting with ( Download Full Version of Monterey ), created a USB Bootable Installer, wipe the drive 100% clean and commence the Installation and final boot up in Monterey.


Scorched Earth Method 


This method will WIPE ALL Data and there is No DATA Recovery - Period.


>> Only works on Intel Based Apple Computer <<


To perform this action will require booting from a Bootable Installer


The Bootable Installer can Only be performed on an Apple Computer 


This will have to be performed from a Qualifying Computer to run the version of macOS to be made on the Bootable Installer.


Example : Bootable Installer of Monterey would have to be done on a computer that Qualifies to run Monterey.


Notation: If the computer being used to perform this action is Too New or Too Old to qualify to run the version of macOS - this computer can not be used.


Alternative is, to gain access to a Qualifying Apple Computer from a family member, friend or associate.


Extra Special Notation regarding the Touch ID equipped Apple Computer.


 About Startup Security Utility and Must Enable from Recovery Mode the ability to boot from External Drive Before Attempting 


1 - Shutdown computer and disconnect all external drive Except the newly created Bootable Installer.


2- Restart and immediately hold the OPTION key until the Startup Manager appears and choose the USB Drive. 


3 - It will present options >> Disk Utilities >> View >> View ALL attached Drives. 


4 - Choose the Upper Most Drive ( not the volumes indented and list below ).


5 - The drive normally is called Apple Media or Apple SSD - that is the drive to Erase and format as APFS with the GUID Partition Map.


6 - Once that is done >> backup out of Disk Utilities and choose install macOS. 


7 - Follow the prompts and it may automatically reboot several time. 


8 - Upon a final reboot - Setup Assist will present with the newer version of macOS.

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Feb 6, 2023 5:12 AM in response to nlouis4

Welcome


How long does it take ?


Depends on your skill set, Internet Connection Speeds.


Have No needed to downgrade but have used the the below method.


It took about 1 1/2 Hours to 2 Hours Starting with ( Download Full Version of Monterey ), created a USB Bootable Installer, wipe the drive 100% clean and commence the Installation and final boot up in Monterey.


Scorched Earth Method 


This method will WIPE ALL Data and there is No DATA Recovery - Period.


>> Only works on Intel Based Apple Computer <<


To perform this action will require booting from a Bootable Installer


The Bootable Installer can Only be performed on an Apple Computer 


This will have to be performed from a Qualifying Computer to run the version of macOS to be made on the Bootable Installer.


Example : Bootable Installer of Monterey would have to be done on a computer that Qualifies to run Monterey.


Notation: If the computer being used to perform this action is Too New or Too Old to qualify to run the version of macOS - this computer can not be used.


Alternative is, to gain access to a Qualifying Apple Computer from a family member, friend or associate.


Extra Special Notation regarding the Touch ID equipped Apple Computer.


 About Startup Security Utility and Must Enable from Recovery Mode the ability to boot from External Drive Before Attempting 


1 - Shutdown computer and disconnect all external drive Except the newly created Bootable Installer.


2- Restart and immediately hold the OPTION key until the Startup Manager appears and choose the USB Drive. 


3 - It will present options >> Disk Utilities >> View >> View ALL attached Drives. 


4 - Choose the Upper Most Drive ( not the volumes indented and list below ).


5 - The drive normally is called Apple Media or Apple SSD - that is the drive to Erase and format as APFS with the GUID Partition Map.


6 - Once that is done >> backup out of Disk Utilities and choose install macOS. 


7 - Follow the prompts and it may automatically reboot several time. 


8 - Upon a final reboot - Setup Assist will present with the newer version of macOS.

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Feb 6, 2023 4:40 AM in response to nlouis4

Two Options


1 - Return the computer and have them remove the Ventura OS and reinstall Monterey and or request full refund.


2 - The link below has the necessary steps to perform this yourself


Be very certain of which Type of machine this computer is, INTEL or Apple Silicon.


There are two very different methods in the like below


https://www.howtoisolve.com/downgrade-macos-ventura-to-macos-monterey/

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Feb 6, 2023 5:05 AM in response to Owl-53

Thanks, I'm in Asia and they told me Apple doesn't give a choice and downloads it automatically, maybe that means they don't know how to do it?

I have Intel. Is there anything else I must watch out for? How long does it take approximately? Thanks P much appreciated.

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Feb 6, 2023 7:59 AM in response to nlouis4

You are welcome and Thank you too 🇨🇦


Aside, before COVID we used to spend 1 - 3 Months in Asia during our Winter Months


Very Best in the pending adventure with this computer


Should any additional questions arise specific to this operation - do ask Before rather than afterwards


We are here is assist 😀

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Feb 8, 2023 4:59 AM in response to nlouis4

Sometimes, IMHO the More Relaxed is better 😀 and time to be personal with people in person


Technology is everywhere in Asia.


From Cellphones and less so on Computers but still there.


Let us know how the computer issue moves forward - time permitting.

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