Bootable clone for older MacBook Pro

I used to use Carbon Copy Cloner in order to have a bootable clone of my laptops on an external HD in case my internal drive failed (or other failure caused me to need to use a loaner machine). However, from what I've read recently it seems that newer versions of Mac OS have made making bootable clones less reliable. Does anyone know if this is true? If so, do I have other options? Here's my current set up:


Early 2015 Mackbook Pro 13" Retina (256GB internal SSD, 8GB RAM, running MacOS 12.3, Monterey)


And my external drive:

* OWC 1TB Envoy Pro FX (300GB partition for the clone)

* Thunderbolt 3 (Destination) to USB-A (Source)


Thanks in advance for any feedback.

MacBook Pro 13″, macOS 12.3

Posted on Sep 6, 2022 07:07 PM

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Posted on Sep 6, 2022 08:28 PM

the method I've always used would probably be considered a major PITA by many users. but in the ever increasing "walled garden" of macOS, I feel it's now the best way. I always have used macOS Recovery to install macOS onto an external drive, and then manually move any of my desired data onto the external drive.


please see Start up your Intel-based Mac in macOS Recovery for a couple of options of which version of macOS that are available to be installed by you.

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Sep 6, 2022 08:28 PM in response to Scott F.

the method I've always used would probably be considered a major PITA by many users. but in the ever increasing "walled garden" of macOS, I feel it's now the best way. I always have used macOS Recovery to install macOS onto an external drive, and then manually move any of my desired data onto the external drive.


please see Start up your Intel-based Mac in macOS Recovery for a couple of options of which version of macOS that are available to be installed by you.

Sep 6, 2022 09:40 PM in response to Scott F.

Basically, what you have read, is true. With the latest versions of macOS, currently Monterey, you can no longer create a "bootable clone" like you could with earlier versions. That is because, macOS is installed in two volumes within a single APFS container (what used to be called a partition,) with one of them (that contains the majority of the operating system) being "sealed." CCC has currently (I know since I been using CCC for years) still has not worked this out with Apple to overcome this limitation.


... so the "best" you can do is clone the other volume (Macintosh HD - Data) to an external drive, which you can restore. Which leaves you with having to use Recovery Mode to re-install macOS, and then, restore the Data volume from the CCC clone (or a Time Machine backup.)

Sep 9, 2022 01:57 PM in response to Tesserax

Thanks for confirming. Such a bummer. My laptop is old and I'm currently out of the US, so just trying to plan for the worst ... which would be, my internal drive dies and I need to get back up and running right away. Sounds like those days are gone. Feels like a step backwards.


So, now that we've lost this capability, since you've been a CCC user for many years ... are you continuing to use it anyway, or just using Time Machine? Wondering if I should bother buying CCC 6.

Sep 10, 2022 06:58 PM in response to Scott F.

I still use CCC for making clones ... just not bootable ones. I maintain that multiple backup methods are still the best approach. Should CCC work it out with Apple, I would certainly look forward to making bootable ones again as CCC is far easier than the Disk Utility for this purpose.


I continue to keep TM in my backup "toolkit" because of convenience ... but I could also use CCC for incremental backups as well. The only concerns I have with TM is that is has become a more complicated process "behind the scenes" when Apple introduced APFS file formatting. There are a number of excellent articles on this subject at The Eclectic Light Company that you may want to take a look at.

Sep 10, 2022 07:20 PM in response to Scott F.

It is still possible to make a bootable clone of macOS using CCC even with Monterey, but only on Intel Macs. It seems bootable clones are no longer possible on Apple Silicon Macs after one of macOS 12.x Monterey's updates. There is always a chance another Monterey update could prevent bootable macOS clones even on Intel Macs. So it is best to prepare for this possibility.


As for making a bootable clone of an Intel Mac running macOS 11.x or 12.x, you need to modify the older method of using CCC. You must now erase the destination and right-clicking on the destination icon within CCC and selecting "Legacy" option. If you do both of these things, then the clone should be bootable (only for Intel Macs). See this article from the CCC developer:

https://bombich.com/kb/ccc6/cloning-macos-system-volumes-apple-software-restore


Sep 11, 2022 12:12 PM in response to Tesserax

Thanks for the continued feedback and for that blog link (wow, a lot of information there). I think I'm just going to forget about having a bootable clone for now, but go with CCC for cloning and not bother with Time Machine. So much of what I do these days is cloud based anyway so I'm not too worried about incremental backups of the HD. Always felt better with a bootable clone though, so hopefully we'll see that return at some point (without the current caveats and cautions).

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