Hi there I had gone through several news articles claiming Apple settlement for Unauthorised siri recording /listening even when not allowed to.
for this they even came up with a website .
I would like to know is that even real?
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iPhone 13 Pro, iOS 18
Note that to make a claim, you have to file a claim form on time … and
"The Claim Form requires that you confirm or update your current contact information and confirm the following under oath: from September 17, 2014 to December 31, 2024 (i) you purchased or owned Siri Device in the United States or its territories and enabled Siri on that device, (ii) you experienced an unintended Siri activation, and (iii) the unintended Siri activation you experienced occurred during a conversation intended to be confidential or private."
https://lopezvoiceassistantsettlement.com/faqs
That is, you don't get money merely for owning a Siri-capable device, or for having it listening all of the time, waiting for you to say "Hey, Siri". Or even for it trying to interpret non-confidential conversation as a command.
You have to confirm under oath, with penalties for perjury, that there was an unintentional activation which resulted in Siri trying to interpret a confidential and private conversation as a command.
I told them they are the ones violating my rights to privacy. They sent me an email yet I never consented to sharing an email address with them , I never consented to them knowing my name and surname and I never consented to them knowing I use Apple phone. So the fact that they got all that information without my consent they are violating my rights to privacy!
It’s very telling when you’re calling us “woke” and to not believe everything we see when we’re literally referencing a legit case with easily verifiable information in response to a baseless assumption you made. Rather than thanking us for providing you facts and reassurance to your concerns and explaining how they are verifiable you double down.
When you say “us” and “we” it’s you and who ? Are you working with Lopez. And you are calling it my concerns! I simply said I’m not signing up for this. What’s exciting about trying to get payouts from Apple through ripping them off and you receiving $20 from idleness.
We’re literally replying to you about your original comment and follow up comments. Simply following along it is obvious “we” and “us” would be the two people replying to you, myself and Servant of Cats.
“I simply said I’m not signing up for this.” That’s an out right lie because you got outraged and accused those involved in the lawsuit of not having your consent to email you and violating your privacy. When we explained it’s not a violation of your privacy and pointed to you to legit sources you imply it’s a scam and that we are woke.
You don’t have to file a claim for this court case, but you shouldn’t be arguing and name-calling because you are wrong in your outrage.
Large corporations like Apple get sued constantly by class action lawyers because they, the lawyers, get most of the settlement money while members of the class get next to nothing.
Many years ago there was a class action against Apple about an early version of System 9 just before macOS X came out. I was determined to be a member of the class. The lawyers got millions in fees. Guess what I got?
A free System 9 installation disc!
It ain’t worth it, people.
Because millions of users are potentially eligible and using multiple device. For example, in my household I have 10 + potentially eligible devices for my wife and I.
In addition I have several Apple TV’s and Macs that are eligible, but 10 is the limit (5 per person). In theory it’s a maximum of $200 in total for my household. So, if just 1 million users apply and they average 5 devices, the total about of settlement funds required would be $100 million dollars and the fund would lacking adequate funds for maximum settlement of $20 per device. I suspect people may end up receiving only a few dollars per eligible device submitted per claim.
True but then appl wudda been notified and they’d notify us. I don’t know if they have to but something like this I think they would.
id assume the judge wud make them as he’d think of the same concerns as us:
a shady looking email from some random place cloaking without proof is trying to contact potential victims and such, ask for their info and then “get paid”.
You do you, there really is nothing to debate. As you have seen in the notice you were sent, you may be a class member. It is up to you to determine that and what you're comfortable agreeing to under oath. No one here can make that decision for you and I also would not recommend telling someone to make a statement under oath that they don't necessarily agree with.
Actually I was just going to talk about my new Echo Show 8 (3rd generation) which I have seen randomly listening. The blue bar on the bottom will light up and nobody is even talking. The blue bar indicates that Alexa is listening. And this will continue for a minute or so until I tell Alexa to stop listening. This is only when I happen to notice it.
How can we do that as easily with devices we have had over a 10 year period? It’s just not as noticeable with a phone we’re carrying in our pockets or our watches which are covered by our sleeves. But I do know that my watch Siris have often been unintentionally activated. Yes, I accidentally pressed the crown to activate her many times when I would bend my wrist and I had the crown on the side of my wrist that would touch my hand when I bent my wrist.
And then my current iPad had an issue with Siri not turning off until I pressed somewhere on the screen or the home button (yes it is that old) when I asked her a question. I am sure that I didn’t know about that the entire time it was happening. So I have to say that private and confidential communications were obtained all that time and I don’t know how long it was going on.
I’m not that creative that I can just make things up like this when I’m unable to sleep. These are real examples of unintentional activation. I’m sure that Siri can be activated and private communications obtained in other ways.
DeniseAndKing wrote:
Actually I was just going to talk about my new Echo Show 8 (3rd generation) which I have seen randomly listening. The blue bar on the bottom will light up and nobody is even talking. The blue bar indicates that Alexa is listening. And this will continue for a minute or so until I tell Alexa to stop listening. This is only when I happen to notice it.
How can we do that as easily with devices we have had over a 10 year period? It’s just not as noticeable with a phone we’re carrying in our pockets or our watches which are covered by our sleeves. But I do know that my watch Siris have often been unintentionally activated. Yes, I accidentally pressed the crown to activate her many times when I would bend my wrist and I had the crown on the side of my wrist that would touch my hand when I bent my wrist.
And then my current iPad had an issue with Siri not turning off until I pressed somewhere on the screen or the home button (yes it is that old) when I asked her a question. I am sure that I didn’t know about that the entire time it was happening. So I have to say that private and confidential communications were obtained all that time and I don’t know how long it was going on.
I’m not that creative that I can just make things up like this when I’m unable to sleep. These are real examples of unintentional activation. I’m sure that Siri can be activated and private communications obtained in other ways.
Private conversations were obtained? Apple isn't listening to your conversations with or without Siri. That's just pure paranoia.
If Siri is activated unintentionally and I’m talking to someone, that’s a private conversation that was obtained. I don’t know how that is paranoia. My conversations were not meant to be recorded and I’m pretty sure that they are if Siri is activated.
Okay but they were OBTAINED when Siri was triggered, as the settlement is about. Wow, this is not even a conversation. How can you say I’m paranoid when this is what that lawsuit is saying? They do record Siri sometimes depending on your privacy settings. That’s not paranoia.
The point is that Siri was also being activated without my knowledge. I didn’t consent to that part. I honestly don’t remember what my privacy settings were at the time. There was a time when I wasn’t aware of the setting and certain settings were on by default. My mother actually told me about that, but it was sometime around 2021, I’d say. I did start making sure to turn the setting off at that point. Anyway, I don’t want to keep arguing the small details related to this all day. No offense. Maybe I shouldn’t have gotten involved in this discussion. But all have to make our own decisions as far as the settlement claims and everything else in life! I hope you have a good day.
You don't seem to understand that this is a technical support forum. Not a place to debate whether you were aware of something or not or feel you have a right to compensation.
The question originally asked has been answered. Please move on.
I was also responding to previous responses that I had seen. I suppose that was my mistake, because that’s not what the original question was about. And you are right that I don’t have a lot of experience with this type of forum. I do apologize.
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