Pages and Keynote are broken on MacBook Pro after upgrading to Catalina

Hi, I upgraded my MacBook Pro 13" retina late 2013 from OS Sierra to OS Catalina because Sierra would no longer be supported.

Since then several important apps are not working anymore: Pages and Keynote!

That means I cannot make new documents and presentations but also I can no longer open my documents in Pages or Keynote. I need these apps on my laptop.

I asked already the community how to solve this problem but it seems there is no older version of Pages and Keynote available that works with OS Catalina 10.15.7. When I go to the App Store in Catalina it does not work and I get constantly a message of a crash after opening these apps.

When downloading and installing Catalina there should have been a warning that several apps would no longer work.

The only possibility for me is returning to an alder version of OS (Sierra or High Sierra for example). Is this possible and how to do this? Or are there other solutions for me because I need Pages and Keynote to be able to use my documents again and to make new ones.

Thanks for the help!




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MacBook Pro 14″, macOS 14.5

Posted on Apr 23, 2025 02:55 AM

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Apr 23, 2025 11:03 AM in response to muesli_usa

It's good news that the apps do show up as previous purchases.


Before we dive into reinstalling the OS or upgrading, etc, I'd like you to try restarting the Mac in safe mode as a troubleshooting step. It's very safe and not very difficult.

How to use safe mode on your Mac - Apple Support 


❝Start up your Intel-based Mac in safe mode

  1. Turn on or restart your Mac, then immediately press and hold the Shift key until you see the login window.
  2. Log in to your Mac.
  3. You might be asked to log in again.
  4. On either the first or second login window, you should see “Safe Boot” in the menu bar.❞


Safe mode will often correct weird software behavior by forcing the OS to clear caches, do disk repair and other housekeeping and temporarily disables third-party mods.


Launch Pages and Keynote while booted in safe mode.

Do the apps still crash immediately?


You can exit safe mode by restarting your Mac normally, then reevaluate the problem.

Apr 23, 2025 05:28 AM in response to muesli_usa

Open the App Store, sign in and then click on your account icon at the bottom of the sidebar.

You should now have access to your previous Purchases and the Pages and Keynote apps should be there for you to download again. Redownload apps and games from Apple - Apple Support


Mac OS Sierra was released in 2016 and received its last revision update in 2017, eight years ago. Since then there have been eight (!) major revisions to the OS. In fact, your MacBook Pro can run macOS 11 Big Sur which is one version newer than Catalina.


For several years before macOS Catalina was released in 2019, Apple did warn users and developers that major changes to the OS were coming and that older applications would no longer work under the modern OS.


Yes, it is possible to reinstall an older version of the OS. If going backward, Mojave would be the recommended version. It will require that you erase your startup drive, reinstall the OS and then reinstall your user files and data from a backup. You do have a backup, don't you? Back up your Mac with Time Machine - Apple Support


I'd recommend that instead of going backward, you make that final upgrade to Big Sur so you can get the most life out of the old MBP before you have to replace it. And you should probably start to make plans for that, seeing that the computer is twelve years old by now.



Apr 23, 2025 09:31 AM in response to D.I. Johnson

Hi D.I. Johnson,

Thanks for your reply!

When I click on my account in the App Store I can see in my purchases Pages and Keynote April 2020 (although I never had to buy it). Pages, Keynotes, iMovie etc were initially installed on my laptop when I bought it in 2013 directly from Apple Store Belgium. And with all later upgrades of OS versions they kept working. When I try to open one of these Apps now they don't work (probably because the version available to download does not work on Catalina anymore). See a screenshot below.

If I upgrade now to Mojave do you think that Pages and Keynotes will work again? That would be fine for me!

And yes, I have made a backup with Time Machine on an external drive before installing Catalina.

Going backward looks a little difficult for me and dangerous (erasing startup drive???). I am not so good with computers (and I am already 76).

Thanks for the help,

Raf.

Apr 23, 2025 01:15 PM in response to D.I. Johnson

Hi,

I restarted my MacBook Pro while holding the Shift key until they asked my password to start the computer. Then the computer started up with my normal desktop. But I did not see "safe boot". I opened Pages and it seemed to work with a new document. I restarted my computer again without holding Shift and when I tried to open one of my documents it crashed again like before. I repeated this twice (restarting with Shift key) but the same result. Opening Pages seems to work but opening an existing document not.

Raf.


Apr 23, 2025 02:01 PM in response to muesli_usa

Are you running any sort of anti-virus, optimizing, clean-up or VPN apps? These will often interfere with the operation of the OS and cause problems. If you have any of these, disable or, better yet, uninstall them and restart the computer.


At this point, I would uninstall Pages and Keynote. You can then re-download them from the App Store. It may simply be that the earlier version(s) you carried over during your upgrade may be damaged. Reinstalling them after a fresh download is likely to solve this problem.


The apps can be uninstalled by dragging them from the Applications folder to the trash. Then empty the trash, restart the Mac and visit the App Store to download them again.

Apr 23, 2025 02:29 PM in response to D.I. Johnson

Hi,

I don't run anti-virus or other apps that are not from Apple.

But something strange happens now. When I open Pages or Keynote it crashes immediately. But when I click "open again" sometimes it works. And the same with older documents. Some open and some not and those who don't open can be opened sometimes retrying again. At least I can work again for the moment.

Wouldn't it be dangerous to uninstall these Apps (Pages and Keynote) when afterwards I cannot download a version from the App Store that runs on Catalina?

I have noticed that it is the same with the Numbers App. When I tried to open a document in Numbers it crashed immediately. But after re-opening it twice it finally opened and I could start working in it.

Thanks,

Raf.


Apr 23, 2025 02:37 PM in response to muesli_usa

muesli_usa wrote:

Hi,
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Wouldn't it be dangerous to uninstall these Apps (Pages and Keynote) when afterwards I cannot download a version from the App Store that runs on Catalina?

Not at all. You cannot download a fresh copy if the app is already installed on the Mac, as they now are. This is why you see "Open" next to each app in the App Store today. If you delete them, the App Store offer will change to "Get" and you can download a fresh copy.


Besides, you also have a copy of those problematic apps on your Time Machine backup drive. You can always recover them from there if need be - though they would likely continue to misfire.

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