M4 Pro Mac mini CPU very hot during gaming

Quoting from another thread:

I am afraid this new fan behaviour is intended. Apple changed the fan control curves. The M1 Mini was ramped up much quicker, but mostly didn't need to, because it almost never got hot. The denser packed Mini M4 gets hot more quickly, but, my interpretation, Apple doesn't want fan noise to point this out and to annoy the user, because on the Intel Minis, this fan noise felt cheap and screamed insufficient cooling solution.

Everyone will tell you that 100°C is fine and dandy, which may be true for some components, but definitely not for others close by, like capacitors. It is much too early to see if the prolonged heat will have detrimental effects in the long run. Warm expands, cold contracts, so of course this exhibits a force on components that behave differently and at the same time are bonded together. Xbox Red Ring of Death, anyone?

While recording video with OBS Studio, the temperature quickly reaches 100 degrees Celsius, and the fans are insufficient to reduce this heat. I have to use a fan management program to lower the temperature. I took the product to Apple Store Turkey (Caddebostan branch), and they told me that their tests showed the product was not hot. When I asked them, "How many degrees does it need to be for you to consider it hot?" they said there isn’t a specific number for this. In other words, they don’t even know what they base their hot or cold assessment on. The product operates at a minimum of 65 degrees Celsius during normal desktop use. When I open any application, the temperature quickly rises to 100 degrees. This situation is unacceptable. Do not buy this device. The M2 Mac mini works much cooler and more efficiently than this.

Got my M4 Mini last week and was rendering an Adobe Premiere movie and noticed the fans kicked on (for the first time) out of curiosity I installed my TGPro fan app that I also used on my previous computer (really believed I would never need it on this new computer) and the indicator was in the RED and showing 214* F I couldn’t believe it! I quickly went to manual and kicked the fans up even higher. I got it down to 198* F which in the TGPro app is below red and in acceptable temperature range. Looks like I’ll have to manage this fan like I had to on my previous computer. I always figured my old computers thermal paste was probably hardening since it was old but never expected this new M4 to run at THAT temperature?

I'm using TGpro now, but that's the problem, why do I have to use TGpro? And I process 2K video, I use OBS studio. After all, this device overheats. If many people have this problem, it means that such a problem really exists.

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The problem is you trolling and giving false arguments.

100 degrees Celsius is never good for electronics and especially when they reach from 40 to 100 in not even a second, that's good to say bye bye to your machine in a year or 3. Because of the rapid expanding and krimping of materials.

100 is to hot for everything, Intel AMD Apple.

Indeed, users should not have to look for ways to keep their device cool, Apple should give us decent temps and should not lock us out of the ability to set our own fan curves, that's just anti consumer af.

Have you tried dual displays and/or dictation software or other software on a virtual machine?

Sorry, no.

I guess the question is how hot is too hot for the Apple designed hardware? Time will tell. I agree the user should not have to make any adjustments for the Mac to run correctly.

It’s fine - you clearly have no idea about how Apple processors manage heat or what their materials can withstand. Neither do I actually, but it’s not rocket science. Look it up. Goodbye 👋

I do understand, that'd the problem that I do and you don't.

Again it ain't rocket science, just basics...

I don't have a mini, have a MBP and I do some coding on it.

My MBP m2pro for your information doesn't have the same problem as the m4pro but you go ahead and keep being toxic and a troll...

105 degrees Celsius is fine for m4 chips dont worry much

Which software are you using to set the custom fan thresh? I myself have the base model m4 Mac mini and have seen temperatures reach as high as 115C which is obviously totally ridiculous.