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Recovering deleted emails on iMac using Time Machine

I'm trying to recover deleted emails on my iMac running Sequoia 15.1.1 using Time Machine but can't figure how to go about it. If I open Mail and select All Trash then open Time Machine it always displays the window for finder and I cannot open Mail from there. Can anyone help? Thank you.




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iMac 24″, macOS 15.1

Posted on Nov 20, 2024 8:29 AM

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Nov 20, 2024 12:54 PM in response to krcolson

Yes, Apple pretty much made it more difficult to use Time Machine (TM) to recover emails from the Apple Mail app, since macOS Catalina. Since your Mac is running macOS Sequoia, the only method to retrieve email messages is via the Finder, not TM, albeit, TM still does back them up.


With each subsequent release of macOS, where Mail stores it files has changed. For Sequoia, that is now in the V12 folder.


As far as I know, the following steps are still correct:

  1. If running, close the Apple Mail app.
  2. Open a new Finder window: Finder > File > New Finder Window
  3. To view hidden files, use the <cmd><shift><period> key combination. Note: They don't need to be held down simultaneously.
  4. Select your Time Machine backup drive from Finder.
  5. Open: Backups.backupdb > Your Mac's Name > The backup folder with the date you want to restore from > Macintosh HD or Macintosh HD - Data (on Catalina+) > Users > Your User Name > Library > Mail > Vx (where x = 12 for Sequoia)
  6. Copy (NOT move) the entire V12 folder somewhere on your Mac, preferably somewhere not syncing with a cloud service. A good place would be the Downloads folder.
  7. Open the V12 folder you just copied to the Downloads folder. You’ll see a bunch of alphanumeric folders ... one for each email account and one for the "On My Mac" mailboxes. Open each one until you find the mailboxes you’re looking for. Be sure to note the directory path to where it is located.
  8. Open the Mail app.
  9. Choose File > Import Mailboxes, navigate to the noted location
  10. Choose “Import as Apple Mail”.
  11. Next, in the Mail app, you’ll see a new “Import” folder, maybe with another sub folder. Your mail should be in there.

Nov 21, 2024 6:09 AM in response to krcolson

What has made Mac's some what safer to use than Windows is the security measures that Apple has put in place over the years. Sure trying to retrieve Mail from TimeMachine is cumbersome and Mail does have bugs in it as a developer have found out but just because you couldn't retrieve you backed up email on TimeMachine isn't a great argument to not recommend Mac to anyone.


What I have suggested to people if they are running Mail and are using their email on a IMAP server such as Microsoft or Gmail or Yahoo is to delete their email address from Mail and re-enter using the appropriate option for the email address. At least you get back your email if you haven't deleted it off of the servers.

Nov 20, 2024 9:15 AM in response to AlWeir

  1. I've already tried that solution. It doesn't make sense. It says to Go to ~/Library/Mail/V10 in Finder. Does that mean using Terminal app? I tried that and here's what I got:

Last login: Wed Nov 20 11:13:40 on ttys000

kevincolson@Kevins-iMac ~ % Go to ~/Library/Mail/V10

zsh: command not found: Go

kevincolson@Kevins-iMac ~ % ~/Library/Mail/V10

zsh: permission denied: /Users/kevincolson/Library/Mail/V10

kevincolson@Kevins-iMac ~ % sudo -s

Password:

root@Kevins-iMac ~ # ~/Library/Mail/V10

zsh: permission denied: /Users/kevincolson/Library/Mail/V10

root@Kevins-iMac ~ # 


Back in the day, I used to use Time Machine to very easily recover emails, now Apple in their infinite wisdom keeps making simple mouse click operations extremely difficult! Just like being able to schedule turn on and shutdown your make using mouse clicks on the energy saver icon has now become command line input using Terminal. Who are brain childs who change things like this? Frustrating as ****!

Nov 21, 2024 5:30 AM in response to Tesserax

Hello Tesserax,


Thanks so much for your reply. I tried following your instructions and did get to the point where I see those alphanumeric folders, but trying to decipher where my emails were is daunting. They don't present themselves exactly like in Mail and after many trial and errors, I became frustrated and abandoned my searches. I just can't fathom how the powers at Apple would make so many steps backwards with performing rather simple tasks using mouse clicks with text input command lines! You would think if they want people to buy and use their product, they would make things simpler and not more complicated. That is what made them successful all those years ago when we had to use command line input. I really don't think I would recommend a Mac to anyone today.

Nov 21, 2024 6:22 AM in response to AlWeir

Well AlWeir, not being a developer does not forfeit my displeasure with Apple. And it is not just because I failed to retrieve email, as I stated earlier, another example is the "turn of , shutdown" proceedure is another example of taking steps backwards in user convienience. Things like this are what makes me like Mac less. It used to be simple so you are saying these things have changed for security reasons? Please explain.


Also, could you explain this paragraph: What I have suggested to people if they are running Mail and are using their email on a IMAP server such as Microsoft or Gmail or Yahoo is to delete their email address from Mail and re-enter using the appropriate option for the email address. At least you get back your email if you haven't deleted it off of the servers.


Not being an expert, I don't understand what you mean by delete and re-enter using the appropriate option? What is the appropriate option?


Thank you for your input.

Recovering deleted emails on iMac using Time Machine

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