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Search not working-Sequoia 15.1 Update

Good morning. Is it? Today's daily issue: Search is not working after the Sequoia 15.1 update. I used "This Mac," Name contains "......", Everything "....."


I also tested it by pasting in a file name I had copied from a folder and no go. Oh yeah! Usually, files come up that do not correlate with the search wording! By the way, this is an annoyance occurring in previous MacOS's. How do you stop it?? I must delete a letter and type it back in to get Name Contains "....."


Research tells me I have to re-index Spotlight. Why do I have to do this? Isn't an update supposed to make things easier and better? And how does a true Mac user re-index anything- it used to be readily available?


Please help! Search is a vital function.

Mac Studio, macOS 15.1

Posted on Nov 2, 2024 6:26 AM

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Posted on Dec 1, 2024 8:56 AM

Mac OS Sequoia 15.1.1 is the first OS I've installed in 25 years that completely broke my Spotlight Search. Finder is basically dead weight now. This is a basic core function of the Apple OS that stopped working one day. Please repair what was broken.

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Nov 18, 2024 5:21 AM in response to Boat Guy

I have several older, working Macs that are messed up. Indexing worked on one of them. I think there is a bug that interferes with indexing, and it starts with the word "security." I still have G4s running, and they work fine—steady as a rock—but they are slow and have too little memory storage. I keep them offline, away from the dominion of the software giants. To me, the problems started with MacOS Maverick.

Nov 26, 2024 4:06 PM in response to rgbnite

It's the end of November. I have rebuilt the index using every main folder: Desktop, Desktop that iCloud provided on Desktop, Shared, External Drives, and running a search for "Turkey" from Finder only. The finder only found 19 items. But I have 100's of file names with "Turkey."


I will try again while manually looking up files and folders that bear the word "Turkey." Will there ever be a "cure?" Oh yes, I love it when I run a search and get hundreds of files that have nothing to do with the word I'm searching for. I have to put up a post on that one. Stay tuned for more issues: Why is my desktop not listed under my Main User folder but under "iCloud"? Could that be the issue?

Dec 4, 2024 5:39 AM in response to kdawgGB

There are several things you can try:


1) System Settings > Spotlight: make sure Events & Reminders is checked


2) System Settings > General > Login Items & Extensions > "Open at login" panel

de-activate items and extensions that could interfere with the indexation such as a VPN and CleanMyMac.

It doesn't mean you can't use them but at least you can activate them only when you need them.


Same thing with System Settings > General > Login Items & Extensions > "Allow in background" panel


3) System Settings > Internet Accounts

Within Calendars, switch off all your internet accounts (for iCloud and all the others you have)


4) restart your computer, revert to step 3) and switch back on the Calendars you want. This should do it.

Dec 9, 2024 12:32 PM in response to rgbnite

First posted November 2, 2024. It's now December 9, 2024 (meanwhile upgraded to 15.1.1), and a simple search just locked up Finder and Spotlight. I had to shut down> start-up with R key > Options> Utilities > run first aid > restart. I spent most of the day fixing tech issues! This Sequoia has caused so many problems that still need to be resolved. I'm making a list.

Dec 9, 2024 12:30 PM in response to rgbnite

First posted November 2, 2024. It's now December 9, 2024 (meanwhile upgraded to 15.1.1), and a simple search just locked up Finder and Spotlight. I had to shut down> start-up with R key > Options> Utilities > run first aid > restart. I spent most of the day fixing tech issues! This Sequoia has caused so many problems that still need to be resolved. I'm making a list.

Dec 9, 2024 6:14 PM in response to rgbnite

I found this solution - it restored my mail search instantly. I had tried the things listed here, even chatted with Apple support - no joy. So here's the answer:


miner2008

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Posted on Oct 8, 2019 5:17 PM

This solved my problem. My search was broken too. I followed the stop/start spotlight as mentioned in the post above and the search is gradually coming back to normal. I think Spotlight needed a kick to get moving.

Summarizing from the link:


1) Launch the Terminal.app (Just copy/paste the string starting with sudo.... and press return)

2) Stop Spotlight and remove the indexing: # sudo mdutil -i off -E / <return>

3) Enable it again by typing: # sudo mdutil -i on / <return>




Dec 13, 2024 12:02 PM in response to rgbnite

There was just an update to Sequoia yesterday to 15.2 and it is supposed to take care of these Spotlight search issues. My issues transcended the solution posted here and for the past 10 days, I've been working with a senior Apple tech who had to go to engineering to fix the problem. They told me this system update should do the trick. I hope it works, so if you haven't already you should probably run the update and see if it fixes things.

Jan 4, 2025 10:10 AM in response to Norman Lemieux

Here's an interesting update to my "rant" of yesterday:


After hours and hours of indexing--which I thought was only being regenerated on one disk since I only erased the Spotlight DB on it--I came in this morning and ran an mdutil status, and ALL volumes now have "indexing enabled". This is unexpected, because only that one drive provided this status yesterday.


I'm happy, but I don't know if I trust it. But I will try to keep a log on significant storage operations over the next couple weeks, and perform status checks to see if I can catch indexing going "off-line".

Jan 4, 2025 1:05 PM in response to AlWeir

@AlWeir Most of the common non-intrusive fixes were tried as I mentioned. But the reason for my first comment was that 15.2 did not "fix" the issue, and it might be because any changes in 15.2 would keep corruption from occurring from then on, but would not proactively fix any existing corruption. My proof is that my corruption remained.


I also don't know what brought all volumes into "indexing" status from "read-only". I'm surprised that ALL volumes (except the boot drive and network share) got into that state. I'm also surprised that deleting the DB on one volume and inducing indexing there affected all volumes, but we'll see if it stays.


And even though all volumes are indexing now (and are done actively indexing), I still have stale aliases in one bellwether (or canary) folder that did not get removed. Do you know of any shortcuts to get rid of them en masse?

Jan 18, 2025 12:25 PM in response to Sasha_UA

To recap, none of the solutions permanently fixed my instance of the problem, except for the combination of erasing the metadata (variations on mdutil -E) AND a reboot. Only doing the former did not fix all drives and the problem came back, but rebooting fixed Spotlight on all 10 volumes. One of the most important facts is that Spotlight rebuilds start whenever a drive is mounted (which means you need to either unmount it or reboot), so I recommend the reboot path occasionally.


Also, @Shasha_UA's suggestion is not a Finder menu item, but rather the second suggestion from @AlWeir's link. I looked in the menus because there was no context and that seemed the logical place to look. First.

Search not working-Sequoia 15.1 Update

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