macOS Sonoma 14.6, Time Machine re-backing up entire Photos Library frequently

I store my Photos Library on an external 2TB Thunderbolt SSD. I did so following Apple's instructions here: Move your Photos library to save space on your Mac - Apple Support. When using Time Machine to backup my Mac Studio Time Machine often re-backs up my entire Photos Library of 945GB of photos and everything else in the Pictures folder (another 500GB). Why is Time Machine doing this? I also have "Ignore ownership on this volume" checked on as mentioned in the Apple Support document.


Why is Time Machine re-backing up everything seemingly on a regular basis?

Mac Studio, macOS 14.6

Posted on Aug 7, 2024 11:26 AM

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Posted on Oct 26, 2024 6:30 PM

Your Etrecheck report shows some oddities which I will point out but I do not fully understand:


  • Mac performance is "below average." Something is bogging down the system, even Etrecheck took a long time to run.
  • You have adware on your Mac.

Adware:

Launchd: ~/Library/LaunchAgents/com.appcart.AppCart.plist

Reason: Adware pattern match

Executable: ~/Library/Application Support/AppPolicy/AppCart

This could be related because adware sometimes writes files in various places, if it writes files on your drive with the Photos Library that could look like a modification which would mean Time Machine tries to back it up

  • You have 13 (!!!) drives mounted.
  • You have a Fusion drive in use, but it does not appear to be your boot drive???

disk3s1 - Macintosh HD [Fusion Drive] 2.00 TB (619.03 GB free)

APFS Mount point: /private/tmp/msu-target-ZanwC14d

I also don't understand the mount point. How have you set this up?

  • I don't understand this:

System Software:

10.19.6 10.19.6 (23G93)

What MacOS are you running (version 10.19.6 what is that?) and from which drive?

  • You have a utility called KeepDriveSpinning in use. My understanding of how these programs work is that they write small files onto the drives and keep the drive busy in that way. This could make it look like the volume where you large Photos Library is stored is modified when it really wasn't, triggering backups you don't need.


>>> Is this happening? I don't know. But I would start by uninstalling a lot of the many background tasks you have going to try to clean up the system. Etrecheck did say this: System modifications - There are a large number of system modifications running in the background. Low performance - EtreCheck report took over 5 minutes to run. This is unusual.


  • What is this, is it some kind of security software tool? These are not advised, they often conflict ...

Launchd: /Library/LaunchDaemons/com.bresink.system.securityagent.plist

Executable: /Library/PrivilegedHelperTools/com.bresink.system.securityagent

  • VPN is running, these are known to interfere with some MacOS processes
  • Tunnelbear, another VPN is running
  • Norton appears to be on this Mac, known to cause many MacOS anomalies
  • Little Snitch is also there, also known to cause off behaviors
  • You have an OlympusSSD driver, external drive tools and drivers are know to conflict with MacOS, could this be making small changes to your external drive(s) causing unnecessary backups to take place?
  • Seagate toolkit also on this Mac, see previous comment, these utilities and drivers are known to be problematic, best to use external drives without them
  • You are running Cocktail? Also a system modification, suspect ...


You have so many kexts and system modifications that I can't even go through them all. I suspect that the volume being backed up repeatedly is having files constantly written to it (I have pointed to some suspects above) and hence Time Machine things the whole volume is modified and needs backing up.


Frankly, I might consider making two verified backups and then wiping the system, doing a fresh install, then migrating your account and files only, then installing fresh only necessary apps.


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Oct 25, 2024 2:19 PM in response to muguy

I know Time Machine is *supposed* to make incremental backups. What I'm saying is that it's not. For example right now Time Machine has backed up over 860GB of data, 92.8% done, 2 hours remains whereas 7 hours ago Time Machine said "About 20 minutes remaining." There is absolutely no way 860+ GB of data changed since the last backup completed last night.

Dec 9, 2024 12:57 PM in response to Ken Shimabukuro

I upgraded my 2021 16-in MBP M1 Pro (32 GB) from Ventura 13.7.1 to Sonoma v14.7.1. I have now tried two SSDs and a boat anchor rotational drive attempting a first backup in Time Machine and all external drives ceased writing at 52.70 GB at 30% completion.

  1. Crucial X9 2TB USB-C 3.2 Gen2
  2. Crucial X9 Pro 2TB USC-C 3.2 Gen2
  3. Brand-x 3TB rotational drive USC-A 3.0


There are no errors or sudden drive ejects. The backup process just freezes and does not resume after a half-hour.


All drives were erased and formatted as APFS without EFI partitions. I even changed the USB-C cable on the Crucial drives to a longer previous Crucial cable without success. On additional erases and redo, I even tried a different USB-C port on the Mac with the same frozen backup outcome.


Throughout the entire Ventura update cycle, the Crucial X8 drive worked flawlessly. I have an M4 Mac Mini Pro (64GB) using a Crucial X9 SSD which has worked flawlessly with Sequoia v15 and later.


Initially, I thought this to be a bad batch of Crucial drives (I have seven others past and present used for Time Machine without issues), but the freeze on the rotational drive leads me to suspect an issue with Sonoma on this hardware, or the Mac itself. It has been flawless in operation since purchase.


The next steps will be to wait for the next Sonoma point update to see if there was a bug in the Sonoma Time Machine when running on this M1 hardware. If the problem reoccurs, then I will just upgrade to Sequoia and hope that resolves it.

Jan 27, 2025 8:51 AM in response to Ken Shimabukuro

I thought I'd fixed this issue, but Time Machine is still backing up over a terabyte of my Pictures folder. My Pictures folder is 1.49TB in size and resides on a fast external Thunderbolt SSD. Ignore ownership on this volume is check on for that drive. My Photos Library is 999.15GB. Last night I went to sleep with Time Machine saying it had backed up 1.17TB of data. Today Time Machine has been "Cleaning up..." for hours.

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