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I would like a terminal command that shows me the CPU and GPU temperature.
Mac mini, macOS 13.2
Guess it will depend on if the User Computer is INTEL Based or Apple Silicon M1 / M2
Copy and Past from @leroydouglas reply in previous link
SMC sampler is not available on the M1/M2 SoC
Your command-line is for Intel macs only—yes
First, I'd like to thank you for your attempts to answer question so far, but I'm writing this message for another reason.
For some reason my mistake, this topic was posted in the macOS Monterey category, however I already upgraded to Ventura a long time ago, so I ask the responsible moderators to move this topic to the right area.
I just didn't put it in the Mac mini category, because I believe a lot of people who have a computer with an Apple-designed SoC have the same problem.
The only problem is that none of the solutions presented are in the command line interface.
Well, I installed Stats, but it didn't solve my problem, because there are so many temperature sensors and I don't even know where the documentation for using this is, it's impossible to identify which ones are for the CPU and which are for the GPU, or motherboard components.
Will I have to study hardware engineering to understand what this means?
Note: Yes, I already tried it with the "Show unknow sensors" option disabled, but the CPU and GPU sensors is not shown with that disabled.
To be honest, I do not know the answer to your question " Will I have to study hardware engineering to understand what this means? "
I do know of several excellent Contributors who specialize in Apple Hardware
If lucky, 1 or 2 may just pickup your question and offer some Insights from your Image above
My Guess TCMz is the CPU Temperature, Airport would the the Wifi component of the computer, Disk 1 (B) - the internal Drive Temperature the rest, Do Not Know
This software even worked, but I don't like this solution because it's a EULA-protected software, which is something I intend to gradually eliminate from my life. (Including, in the future I will remove macOS when the cute people who develop Asahi Linux have a nice power management and GPU driver with good Vulkan support)
Besides, I still want to find out where the documentation for those "unknown sensors" is , because despite the problems I always prioritize free software for philosophical reasons.
Anyway, thank you, because this will still help a lot of people.
Fedora Core wrote:
This software even worked, but I don't like this solution because it's a EULA-protected software, which is something I intend to gradually eliminate from my life. (Including, in the future I will remove macOS when the cute people who develop Asahi Linux have a nice power management and GPU driver with good Vulkan support)
Besides, I still want to find out where the documentation for those "unknown sensors" is , because despite the problems I always prioritize free software for philosophical reasons.
None of this information is documented. Apple simply doesn't document anything at that level. There is documentation for end users and documentation for app developers. But anything that doesn't fall into those very narrow parameters is unknown and should never be relied on. For example, there is a whole class of "IT" information that Apple provides to enterprise customers via back channels. Those people think it is gospel because it came from Apple. But it regularly breaks after a couple of updates. But the turnover is so high in that industry so nobody ever figures that out. And even the official documentation is often unreliable and is regularly incorrect. I've had Apple engineers tell me things that I've been able to categorically disprove.
I have found some reverse-engineered information about temperature sensors from this project: https://github.com/acidanthera/VirtualSMC
Futhermore, getting this information in real-time is tricky. If you don't want real-time information, you can run the "systemstats" tool to query system analytics data. This does include some temperature information.
Regarding that documentation, Apple isn't any different than any other vendor. Apple just has a very different footprint in the market and a different customer relationship. Maybe you should honestly ask yourself why you aren't already running some free operating system. I'm sure there is a good reason. Maybe you simply find yourself more productive and enjoy a better experience. That isn't going to change. Linux isn't ever going to catch up, no matter how many more decades you wait.
Also, it sounds like you've been misinformed on the philosophical side. All software is governed by EULA. I know what you mean, but you brought it up, and it is an important detail. All software is copied, and is governed by copyright law. Even public domain software has to be declared as such, with the EULA being said public domain declaration. True "free software" actually has one of the most strict types of EULA. That's fundamentally what makes it work. Yes. I know what you mean. But even there, you've been misinformed. The "free software" that so many people contribute to out of a desire to protect their freedoms, is a massive subsidy provided by the working class to major corporations. Most of those corporations (with Apple being one of the notable exceptions) never redistribute the software they are given for free. Instead, they modify it, keep their changes, and use their resources to provide services for a fee, eliminate the market for competition, surveil their their users, and sell/share their personal information.
Some things simply aren't practical on a Mac. In those cases, Linux is the only option. But even on Linux, when people want to be productive and have a great experience, they go to AWS.
I even have several things to discuss about this, but I won't discuss too much because it's not my point to get into a discussion.
Regarding the systemstats tool, I see that it seems to be quite useful, all that remains is to find out how to enable the HID services through the terminal, as I saw in the Github of the "Stats" program that it is disabled by default to reduce energy consumption.
(makes sense, maybe efficient hardware like this doesn't really need to be monitoring temperature)
Fedora Core wrote:
efficient hardware like this doesn't really need to be monitoring temperature
Exactly. To tell the truth, no Apple device needs the user to monitor its temperature. The operating system already does that by itself. The user would sometimes hear the fans ramp up on older Intel devices, but even then, the fans were just doing their job. Unexpected fan noise is never anything that needs monitoring. It may be a symptom of heavy CPU use, heavy GPU use, or some hardware fault. But before Apple Silicon, the fan noise itself was a good indicator of lower-level problems. If anything, Apple Silicon is a regression. Because it is so much efficient, if there is a problem, the user often won't realize it until they either look at CPU usage for some reason, or notice unusual loss of battery life.
Suggest the user follow similar question over that the below link.
Refer to Contributor @leroydouglas for the details
sudo powermetrics unrecognised sampler:mc - Apple Community
FWIW, you may find TG Pro easier to deal with…
You're welcome. I also asked your thread be moved to Ventura.
How to see CPU temperature in terminal (Mac mini 2020)
