Ventura File Vault

I just installed Ventura 13.1 and it turned on File Vault after installation without asking my permission or providing the security key. I saw this with a client upgrade a couple of weeks ago and thought it was a one off. Any ideas what's goin on? - this was on a Mac Studio.

Posted on Dec 29, 2022 09:19 PM

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Dec 30, 2022 08:12 AM in response to maxmaxie

maxmaxie wrote:

Yes - I saw that on laptops when upgrading them too. Perhaps it's something unique to the Mac Studio?

And I now read that turning it off is no big deal on a T2 Mac like you mentioned. In the old days it would take hours/days to decrypt 3.5TB of internal storage. I turned it off and there was no fanfare. Just turned off. No progress bar decrypting data...

For a T2 Mac or Apple Silicon Mac, Filevault now only adds another layer of protection by providing a password to unlock the Mac which happens almost instantaneously. See this Apple article with the relevant section highlighted:

Encrypt Mac data with FileVault - Apple Support
Note: If you have an iMac Pro or another Mac with an Apple T2 Security Chip, the data on your drive is already encrypted automatically. However, turning on FileVault provides further protection by requiring your login password to decrypt your data.


Filevault on a 2018+ Mac with T2 chip or Apple Silicon Mac works completely differently than on older Macs where Filevault was actually using software to encrypt the drive data. With 2018+ Macs, Filevault is just adding an extra password to the mix...Unfortunately Apple doesn't provide any other explanation so we don't know whether this is also encrypting the encryption keys stored within the security enclave or if it is just a simple password feature.

Dec 29, 2022 09:47 PM in response to dialabrain

Normally I agree with you. But I'm telling you it happened without asking a question and more importantly no recovery key given. I turned it off and I guess because I'm on a MacStudio with a T2 chip - it's instantaneous as it doesn't actually re-encrypt data or decrypt it for that matter. Still very strange... and not the first time I've seen it.

Dec 29, 2022 09:53 PM in response to maxmaxie

I didn’t pay attention in Ventura, but in previous versions, if it was a MacBook, it would ask during the setup assistant with the default being on.


An Apple Silicon Mac is encrypted always. It doesn’t have a T2 chip. The Secure Enclave is part of the SoC. Turning on FileVault just sets decryption to the users instead of automatic. You should be able to disable FileVault with your admin user authentication. It will still be encrypted.

Dec 29, 2022 09:54 PM in response to Barney-15E

Yes - I saw that on laptops when upgrading them too. Perhaps it's something unique to the Mac Studio?


And I now read that turning it off is no big deal on a T2 Mac like you mentioned. In the old days it would take hours/days to decrypt 3.5TB of internal storage. I turned it off and there was no fanfare. Just turned off. No progress bar decrypting data...

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